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Thread: Breaking it down: The New Scoring System

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    The New Scoring System - Pt.1

    Ok, folks. Let's break this down and see if we can all get a clear picture before Oct.

    The new system is based on cumulative points instead of the 6.0 standard of marks and placement.

    Under the new system, points are awarded for a technical score combined with points awarded for five additional components – skating skills, transitions, performance/execution, choreography and interpretation.

    In the technical score, each element of a skater’s program is assigned a base value. During the program, judges will evaluate each element within a range of +3 to –3. This evaluation will either add or deduct from the base value of the element. When a skater executes an element, the “Technical Specialist,” monitored by the “Technical Controller,” will identify the element, and its respective point value will be listed on the judge’s screen. The judge then grades the quality of the element. The sum of all performed elements together with the grade of execution will form the technical score.

    In addition to the technical score, the judges will award points on a scale from 0 to 10 with increments of .25 for the five components to express the overall presentation. (See Parts 2-6)

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    The New Scoring System: Pt 2 (Skating Skills)

    The judges will award points on a scale from 0 to 10 with increments of .25 for the five components to express the overall presentation. This is the one of the five components:

    Skating Skills

    • Overall skating quality
    • Multi-directional skating
    • Speed and Power
    • Cleanness and sureness of edges
    • Glide and Flow
    • Depth and quality of edges
    • Balance in ability of partner

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    The New Scoring System: Pt 3 (Transitions)

    The judges will award points on a scale from 0 to 10 with increments of .25 for the five components to express the overall presentation. This is the one of the five components:

    Transitions

    • Difficulty and quality of steps linking elements
    • Creativity and originality of steps linking elements
    • Originality and difficulty of entrances and exits of elements
    • Pattern (ice dancing)
    • Balance of workload between partners (ice dancing)
    • Difficulty and variety of dance footwork, holds, linking movements (ice dancing)

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    The New Scoring System: Pt 4 (Performance/Execution)

    The judges will award points on a scale from 0 to 10 with increments of .25 for the five components to express the overall presentation. This is the one of the five components:

    Performance/Execution

    • Body alignment
    • Carriage
    • Style
    • Body alignment
    • Variation of speed
    • Unison (pairs and dance)
    • Balance in performance between partners (ice dancing)

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    The New Scoring System: Pt 5 (Choreography)

    The judges will award points on a scale from 0 to 10 with increments of .25 for the five components to express the overall presentation. This is the one of the five components:

    Choreography

    • Harmonious composition of the program
    • Creativity and originality (dance only)
    • Conformity of elements, steps and movements to the music
    • Originality, difficulty and variety of program pattern
    • Distribution of highlights
    • Utilization of space and ice surface

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    The New Scoring System: Pt 6 (Interpretation)

    The judges will award points on a scale from 0 to 10 with increments of .25 for the five components to express the overall presentation. This is the one of the five components:

    Interpretation

    • Finesse, and nuances of the musical phrases
    • Expression of the music’s style and character
    • Maintaining the character and style of the music throughout the entire program
    • Timing (OD and FD only)

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    The New Scoring System: Pt 7

    A factor of 2.0 is the weight between the technical score and the five other components (shown in p art2-6). Additional points may be awarded for innovative elements, and deductions will be taken for rule violations.

    At the end of each program, the skater will receive a “segment score” which is the total of the technical score + skating skills + transitions + performance/execution + choreography + interpretation.

    The sum of all segment scores — for example short program + free skate — is the total “competition score.” The skater with the highest competition score is declared the winner.


    For more information about the ISU’s new judging system, read the ISU Communication #1207 which is in .pdf format.

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    Thanks Paula - I never was able to understand it on the ISU site.
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    I have a question: What constitutes an innovative element? Is it just something nobody else can do or can it be an unusually composed choreography? For example, one year the French ladies skater whose name escapes me (she was also a water skiier and had a nice rack) did all her spins at the end of her LP to music from "Legends of the Fall." She went from one spin to another, spinning in both directions, and it had the effect, for me, of life in the west sort of winding away. It seemed innovative to me, but I don't know that it would be considered an innovative ELEMENT.

    Sasha's catch-foot turning slide spiral would seem to me to be an innovative move. But since she's done it in the past, is it still "innovative." And what about the BC spin? It's really just a shotgun spin with the free leg pulled up extremely high. Is that innovation or unusual flexibility?

    Anybody got an answer?
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    am I the only one here who is just extremely confused by this whole new thing??? I was just understanding the details of the "old" system!

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    good grief why can't we just stick with the good ol 6.0 system and make sure the judges aren't bought?? LOL I don't want to learn a new system

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    Thanks for these summaries, Paula. I did in fact spend quite a bit of time at the ISU website trying to get the hang of it, without much success.
    Or maybe when the competitions start, people will want to talk about these.
    I agree. In fact, it's already started, over on the Nebelhorn Trophy thread. Personally, I can't wait for all the fights to begin oer the interpretation of these guidelines. I don't think that they will be using the CoP at the Campbell's Classic (?) This will make Skate America all the more interesting. I hope that I will be able to go.
    I think everybody should copy these for themselves if they don't already have a copy of the COP so they can know what to complain about when they start using it.
    I just did that, Rgirl. Copy all of the seven pages of Paula's posts, I mean. I am going to go over them right now.

    All right!!! about your avatar, Rgirl. Although I expected Ilya K. Are you going to post three more times today and get up to 3000?

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    Wow, Mathman, I hadn't noticed I was that close. Hmm, we'll see...

    Re the avatar, you read my mind. It was a very tough choice between this one of Oksana and the one of Ilia with the round sunglasses. Actually, what made the decision was the way Oksana and Ilia were facing. Oksana faces toward your post, the Ilia one I liked is facing away. I didn't want my avatar to look rude.

    Besides, this photo of Oksana reminds me of one of my favorite books, "Lolita." Plus she looks a little crazed in this photo. If I were still dancing, I'd probably look something like that, I mean in terms of expression
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    Rgirl - the French skater you're thinking of is Vanessa Gusmeroli.

    I'm also a bit confused about the extra "innovative element" score. Like you mentioned, some of Sasha's flexi moves could be seen as innovative - or just showing her flexibility. Ok, say if she got points for one of her spiral variations, the skid spiral or the BO edge one with her body turned round. Would she still get the points if she performed it in the next season too? Because it's still innovative compared to what the majority of skaters do, but it's not new. Anyone know what happens then?

    Also, what about Sasha Abt's flying spin combo in the 02 season? (He did a death drop - kind of inverted butterfly - butterfly in succession, into a sit spin.) It was very innovative for a flying spin IMO - would he get points for that?

    What about moves like varying your arm positions on a jump (like the tano lutz or something)?

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    GUSMEROLI! Such a French name, no wonder I couldn't remember it. Just kidding. Thanks, Icenut. I liked her skating. She was a little eccentric, and I thought it made her interesting. Guess she went with water skiing.

    Yeah, I have all the same questions you do about the "innovative move" thing. Guess we'll have to wait and see when and if they give "innovative move" points.
    Rgirl

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