berthes ghost said:BTW, why didn't the inventors of the toe loop and the flip get a name credit?
A loop is a Rittberger. Probably just called a loop for ease of speech?
Toe loop is still called a cherry flip in a lot of places.
A flip is a Toe Salchow. I guess it was thought that credit should still go to Salchow even though someone else obviously did it first. Like a one foot Axel is still an Axel, and an inside axel is still an axel even if someone else thought of them??
And yes, there is criteria for a toeless lutz in the judge's rulebooks, old ones anyway, I didn't check CoP. But I can't personally remember anyone ever doing one.