Is it Kimmie's responsibility? Or in general, coach, skater, or both?
(Please merge this to any thread if necessary.)
I really enjoyed Kimmie's performance at CoR. I found it well executed and very elegant.
So I automatically thought that her unexpected low score was due to some lack of CoP strategy in the program (especially SP).
My question is, who's fault was it for such a low score for the former champion?
Who lacked strategy?
I can't imagine it's Lori's, since many skaters are getting good scores with her choreo.
Is it Callaghan's role to bring Kimmie good scores? (Probably...)
Or is it Todd's? (Maybe...) Is Todd really capable of maximizing the CoP levels of the elements Kimmie is given to skate within her program?
To view in large you can say that it's the skater who chose the choreographer and the coach(es). There's room to think that whoever chose such staff has the final responsibility.
OTOH, the skater is a student to the coach. Sometimes the coach is said to even dictate over the skater, let alone skating itself but the overall package including the skater's costumes. In that case how can a skater be responsible for the outcome of the scores other than SS, PE, jump failures, or some wobbles in the spirals?
Maybe bit too harsh but I think Kimmie herself did quite well, while the coaches ruined their student's possibility, IMO.
Last edited by sorcerer; 11-25-2008 at 12:33 PM.
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Kimmie's levels were quite low (LSp1, SpSeq1, CCoSp1). Viewing the program, I can say that these three level issues were all execution and not choreographic mistakes. I state this because:
The LSp1 COULD have been a L2 because she was shooting for the 8 revs in position and then the change to the sideways leaning spin. However, Kimmie did not hold the original position for 8 full revs and the sideways leaning spin did not get 2 full revs, much less 3. Execution issue. Kimmie does not have a strong layback nor does she have a great deal of back flexibility, so a L2 is likely the best she's going to achieve.
SpSeq1 could have been a 3 or a 4 BUT because her free leg was perceived to have dropped below her hip on the COE (I thought it might have dropped that far because she came WAY up in her upper body when she changed edge and the free leg DID drop), it became an automatic L1. Again, this is an execution issue.
CCoSp1 could have been at least a L3 but no position or feature was held long enough to attain the credit. Most of her features were only ~ 1.5 revs of spin. Unfortunately, again, we are talking about an execution issue.
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I don't think it is a question of finding someone to "blame." I am sure that everyone is working together, doing the best they can.
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It is really a collabrative process, but the coach is most responsible for making sure that the skater is skating a program that contains high level elements. On paper, a coach might have a skater who has level 3&4 elements, but if the skater fails to execute the elements in ways which gain levels (holding spins... doing all the turns in the footwork cleanly etc.) than the skater is at fault. That is why skaters get level 2 at some events and level 4 at another. It was always planned to be a level 4, but the skater did something (or the judges saw something ) that lowered the level.
A choreographer such as lori would be well versed in the CoP, but probably also recives input from the coach such as "let's do most of her jumps after the half-way mark" or "really put some intricate steps in there."
In kimmie's case, I think that her low scores are coming from a combination of everything. True, she landed her jumps, but like it or not, this year mistakes on jumps such as underotation and edge calls are bigger than falls. Her spins are niether very fast nor well centered... a problem she has been dealing with for a long time. She has been unable to get a really secure-looking edge on her spirals, especially when she changes edge. These little things are expected to be mastered at the senior level.
In all, kimmie could at once get away with her jumps. She had consistant 3/3 combos and even had that threat of the 3 axel. Now that she does not have confident jumps she has not much to fall back on. True, her aristry has improved, but her second mark will never get near Yu-na or Mao or the other top ladies.