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    The skaters I thought did pretty well or better this GP season.

    The ladies that I thought showed potential and more during the GP Series
    01 193.45 Yu-Na KIM (Still has a beautiful 3/3)
    02 191.13 Mao ASADA (two 3A)
    03 188.89 Joannie ROCHETTE ( more confident and cleaner than ever)
    04 172.53 Yukari NAKANO (love her spins)
    05 170.88 Miki ANDO (solid comeback)
    06 170.72 Carolina KOSTNER
    07 167.64.Akiko SUZUKI (pleasant surprise)
    08 166.06 Rachael FLATT (3/3 ratified)
    09 163.86 Fumie SUGURI (go fumie)
    10 161.10 Ashley WAGNER
    11 159.42 Laura LEPISTO (3/3 ratified)
    12 157.92 Alissa CZISNY (love everything but the jumps)
    13 156.54 Caroline ZHANG (3/3 ratified)

    The mens I thought showed potential or more this GP series
    01 238.09 Patrick CHAN(fist notice him in Jr's. I surprise how fast he steped up after Buttle retirement. Wonderful artistry improvements. The axel will come)

    02 236.18 Nobunari ODA (He did better than I suspected. I thought the pressure and nerves might get him.)

    03 233.44 Jeremy ABBOTT ( Suprise at his constancy. Deserves to be in GPF. He was always musical)

    04 230.78 Takahiko KOZUKA (I first notice him last year. His jumps have improve greatly. I love his smooth style and he's the most cosistant skater this year)

    04 230.78 Brian JOUBERT (quad king is having some trouble but still manage to stay strong.Great sp)

    05 225.20 Johnny WEIR (Still relativly consistant even though not as good as last year)

    06 223.21 Evan LYSACEK (I expected more from him but still medaled at two events0

    07 222.94 Tomas VERNER(still an up and down skater but manage to reach the GPF.Beautiful quad)

    08 222.44 Alban PREAUBERT (I love his goofy style and is amazed by his consistancy)

    09 217.25 Stephen CARRIERE (He has great potetial.Hope he is strong at nationals)

    10 217.24 Yannick PONSERO( I became a fan this year)
    11 212.75 Ryan BRADLEY(He still has it in him)
    12 207.93 Adam Rippon (I loved both of his programs)
    13 206.56 Shawn SAWYER ( He showed that he be quiet clean and has the greatest transitions.I looking forward to Canada's nationals.)
    14 204.89 Kevin REYNOLDS (Their might be a new quad king and his programs are quite entertaining.)
    15 201.59 Sergei VORONOV
    16 199.13 Kevin VAN DER PERREN(I'm proud of him)
    17 198.07 Takahito MURA(I got my eye on him. Huge 3A)
    18 192.23 Brandon MROZ
    19 191.38 Artem BORODULIN
    20 185.07 Kristoffer BERNTSSON(First time I seen him. I missed at worlds.I love how he gets into charater)


    Pairs I thought showed potential and more during the GP series.
    01 188.50 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Robin SZOLKOWY
    02 186.06 Qing PANG / Jian TONG ( my favorite is coming back strong)
    03 182.22 Dan ZHANG / Hao ZHANG
    04 176.97 Yuko KAWAGUCHI / Alexander SMIRNOV(great sp)
    05 176.54 Jessica DUBE / Bryce DAVISON
    06 175.05 Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Stanislav MOROZOV
    07 172.69 Keauna McLAUGHLIN / Rockne BRUBAKER(I believe they could medal)
    08 170.87 Maria MUKHORTOVA / Maxim TRANKOV
    09 166.63 Meagan DUHAMEL / Craig BUNTIN
    10 161.49 Rena INOUE / John BALDWIN (Hope they get better later in the year)

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    For the ladies, it's a pretty big jump after the top three. I wonder if that will be the Worlds podium this year?

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    ^I agree it will be very interesting to see if these top three are the top three at worlds. All three, IMHO, are fantastic in different ways (apples, oranges, and bananas, i guess - too hard to compare but love them all and don't want to choose among them!). I will say, though, that I am so pleased with Rochette's confidence so far and really hope she continues on this path.

    Having said that, any of the next three could shake this up if they skate clean and to their abilities - worlds could be a nail biter for the women. Add in the US hopes of regaining three spots and the pressure that brings, and I for one, am really looking forward to worlds (here's hoping I actually get to see it on tv!).

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    Ashley Wagner did pretty well. Her sp is one of my favorites this season.

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    I like this question, stopping to think a bit after the GP series to say who's where you thought they'd be, who's not, and who's even better! I must qualify my comments by saying that occasonial looks at YouTube and DailyMotion have been my only chances to see programs, so a lot of what I'm considering are scores and fan comments.

    Ladies: Mirai's struggling more than I thought she would. I'm not writing her off for future seasons but think she's got her work cut out for her for Nats this year. Even though it was probably fantasy to think we'd see a lot of improvement from Kimmie, I was still hopeful, but I think her days as a serious contender are behind her. Rachael is continuing her steady rise, and Ashley is blossoming under Priscilla's tutelage. YuNa seems comfortable and in a great place for this point in the season. Mao, whose skating I've never enjoyed despite acknowledging her athleticism, may make a believer out of me yet with her programs this year. Joannie is showing an amazing breakout in consistency and show of superior technique and is doing far better than I, a fan, would ever have thought!

    Pairs: Not writing off Dube/Davison, but surprised to find them out of the GPF. Sav/Sol right where I thought they'd be. Surprise GP event silver (NHK) for I&B. McL/Bru not making the splash I thought their hype last year led us to believe was possible, but from a more realistic perspective they're doing just fine.

    Dance: Have Samuelson and Bates imroved their speed this year? Generally, they're certainly where I thought they'd be in terms of placings. Was B/A's move worthwhile? It appears they did, indeed, improve their basics as reflected in things like CD scores. Will their ODs suffer without Sphil, perhaps? Their FD seems strong. Now, just what IS up with Virtue/Moir, anyway? I know she had surgery for blocked leg veins, right? But all hush-hush from their camp. Do we know anything new? Dom/Shab coming back strong from Maxim's injuries. I wasn't sure where they'd be -- they're probably doing even better than I really thought they would!

    Men: Not quite finished their final event. Loss of Dai for at least the season a blow, esp after Buttle and Lambiel retirements.

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    Enlight - I see you followed the total scores of the GPs and avoided saying what you, yourself, felt great improvement this year. If that's what your intention was then the list of scores will tell us something.

    However, if your intention was just to name who we consider those who demonstrated notable improvment from last few years, then I would name;

    Akiko Suzuki
    Ashley Wagner

    Yannik Ponsero (any guy who can skate in T-shirt and Jeans, gets my sportsman vote)

    Kevin Reynolds
    Takahito Mura
    Jeremy Abbott

    Pairs and Skate Dance there seems to be a club featuring the same good teams year after year Frustrating for new teams.. I'll be waiting for Hubbell and Hubbell to show up at Nats and see how that goes.

    I could list those skaters who disappointed me this year, but I wont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Enlight - I see you followed the total scores of the GPs and avoided saying what you, yourself, felt great improvement this year. If that's what your intention was then the list of scores will tell us something.

    However, if your intention was just to name who we consider those who demonstrated notable improvment.
    I thought about given an explaination for all the skaters I named but I felt it would be simpler to name them,post their score and put a few comments here or there to cut down on the verbage. I thought the score more or less can give a general idea of how well they did. Maybe later I will take the time to write more about the 30+ skaters.

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    Yuna Stella Kim!!!!!

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    Top Scores

    Great research!
    The woman in the top 12 scores break down to be:
    5 Japanese
    3 American
    4 from individual countries
    The men in the top 12 scores break down to be:
    6 American
    3 French
    2 Japanese
    1 individual country

    It seems that Japan is taking over a once held monopoly by the North Americans in individual figure skating. I am glad but surprised that there are 6 men in the 12 top scores from the US. Is that all the US sent out this year? Russia has had such a strong history of OGM in mens and now not even a top score?

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    If you leave Kimmie and Emily out of the equation, the skaters did good all in all.

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    I'll repeat:

    YANNIK PONSERO

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    Ice Dance-what's amazing is how tight everything is among the top 6 going to the GPF. Only Delschoes won 2 events. Then we have four teams that won 1 event each. The only team (and last qualifier) for the GPF, that had 2 second places, is B&A-and their total score for 2 events is higher than the total score for any of the other teams.

    Special improvement awards go to Khokhlova / Novitski and Davis/White. Both won a bronze and a gold in the GP. For each it was their first gold. D&W have their first trip to the GPF. Additionally F&S made the GPF for the first time, although I feel they are at about the same level or less than last year.

    Additionally, the Kerrs came out and won two bronze medals and were in good shape at their GP events. Usually they aren't in good shape until Europeans.

    Joe, you shouldn't be so pessimistic about how quickly the young teams can excel.

    A lot of credit has to be given to Crone/Poirier for winning a silver & a fourth place their first year in seniors, even if the silver was facilitated by Pechalat/Bourzat totally bombing at Skate Canada.

    And Samuelson/Bates fourth place at Skate America and bronze at NHK was a very good senior debut, too, as was Gorshkova/Butikov's two fourth place finishes (NHK and SC).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    I'll be waiting for Hubbell and Hubbell to show up at Nats and see how that goes.
    This does not really have anything to do with the topic, but I cannot wait to see these two at Nationals (or JGPF for that matter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Joe, you shouldn't be so pessimistic about how quickly the young teams can excel.

    A lot of credit has to be given to Crone/Poirier for winning a silver & a fourth place their first year in seniors, even if the silver was facilitated by Pechalat/Bourzat totally bombing at Skate Canada.


    And Samuelson/Bates fourth place at Skate America and bronze at NHK was a very good senior debut, too, as was Gorshkova/Butikov's two fourth place finishes (NHK and SC).
    Doris - You are absolutely correct, but I was thinking more of the top teams who year after year are the only top cometitors. The GPs are a selected group of skaters and regardless how well they skate, which are the ones going to the Finals? The same ones who have already won GPs in so many past years.

    btw. I have not looked at who are the Finalists in all of the Divisions yet so maybe I will be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post

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    Thanks as always for the comments, Doris!

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