Keepin' it real
A message from the Kerrs
We are writing to you all in the hopes that you could help us clear up any misconceptions about the level of funding we receive from our association.
We felt the need to do this after Tatianna Tarasova was the latest to imply on Russian TV that we receive millions of dollars in funding. She was not the first person to make this statement. We can categorically say that this is not the case.
WeI receive 70,000 pounds worth of funding per year (the award is officially 90,000, but 20,000 is immediately swallowed up by our association for the salary of the Performance Director and for the running of the office). The funding itself comes from UKsport which funds elite level sport in the UK.
Our funding has to cover all of our training costs including: coaching, ice time, costumes, travel to competitions,hotel accommodations, choreography, physio, video analysis, personal trainer etc.
We felt obliged to make this statement as we felt that this 'myth' had to be nipped in the bud. We also did not want anyone to be under the impression that we had somehow outspent our fellow competitors- many of whom are very well funded.
We hope you can help us in clearing this up.
John and Sinead
All Hail Queen Yu-Na!!!!!!
Nice for Sinead and John to come forward with this. I completely understand what they are trying to say and I support them 100%
Good luck, Sinead and John. Hope to see you guys at Europeans and Worlds.
I love the Kerrs. I am hoping they can make a big splash at Worlds this year - it would be fantastic if they could medal, although I know it will be tough with all of the more "established" dance teams to compete against.
70,000 British pounds is over $100,000 American - that is pretty great funding from a skating federation, and has probably caused some jealousy among other skaters and coaches, leading to the silly "millions of dollars" rumors (but really, TAT should know better!).
Even the very top American skaters in Envelope A only receive about $15,000 per season (a drop in the bucket, considering the cost of coaching, ice time, costuming, equipment, etc. adds up to at least $100,000 per year) and some of the other national federations give even less. But it is nice that John and Sinead are well taken care of so they can concentrate on their skating.
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the USFSA has more top skaters to take care of than the British federation.
L'art pour l'art
I was thinking the same, there is just absolutely nobody else in GB with even a slight chance of a medal - not even at regular Grand Prix events. The state of German figure skating is actually better than the state of British figure skating, and that says a lot.
Originally Posted by Tonichelle
But it is sad that there are rumours like that and that it is talked about that on TV etc.
Last edited by Medusa; 12-10-2008 at 06:42 PM.
Well, obviously. I didn't really think that needed pointing out, but I wasn't implying any particular reason for the disparity in funding or saying that USFS should give $100,000 to each of its top skaters, either. Just saying it costs a lot to be a competitive skater, and the Kerrs are fortunate to be so well supported by their federation.
Originally Posted by Tonichelle
I like the Kerrs
I don't understand TT for saying that. The Soviet Skaters with which she was extremely involved, got private housing and meals and free coaching and use of ice. That was the Soviet system. There was no struggle financially for the skaters. In fact, by the standards of the average soviet citizen the elite athletes were treated as special citizens of the Party.
I am convinced that China gives the same perks to its elite skaters.
Japan and Korea - Don't know.
There is no budget for athletics in the US and most likely in Canada, but private enterprises may issue some funding for struggling athletes of their choice. (Don't count on it.)
I would like to see the statement that TT suggested that the Kerrs receive 80-90 thousand pounds for their training, and so what? The UK has a national funding for sport (UKsport).
It's the kind of rumour that the judges will form a poor opinion of. Maybe that's what is keeping the Kerr's back with the 'also rans'.
They are very well supported by their federation but not in any way financially. NISA does not have a pot to piss in as they say over here. NISA are just very lucky to have such a talented dance team in the form of the Kerrs who have the ability to jump through the ridiculous hoops that NISA put in the way of skaters in the form of talent ID criteria, requirements for passing of junior and senior test, selection process for competitions based on whether you are named to the GB squad which is based on age (and not age limits) ability to land triples and scores at competitions NISA name. Not filling the JGP spots for the JGP hosted in sheffield is pretty awful really.
Originally Posted by libby
The Kerrs receive their funding (as they clearly state in their statement) from UKsport - a funding body that receives most (or possibly all) of it's money from the National Lottery. It has nothing to do with NISA and IIRC is purely results based.
The Kerrs have an awful lot to be proud of, but their federation is not one of them.
While I do agree with you about the state of British skating we do still have Jenna McKorkell who was in fourth place after the SP in Skate Cananda. She did drop to 7th overall but she was 8th at Europeans last year which means we can send a second lady this season.....though quite who that might be is beyond me because our senior ladies are a mess and the best juniors can land maybe a 2A and one triple. Still i felt I had to cheer for Jenna!
Originally Posted by Medusa
Last edited by antmanb; 12-11-2008 at 05:40 AM.
There's a pair team (Kemp & King?) from Breat Britian too no?
There is indeed, they are coached by the Suideks. Kemp&King have had very little competition at home being originally the only junior pair team at nationals and then the only senior team at nationals. This year there should be another two teams at the senior level to challenge them and help develop them.
Originally Posted by KayMil01
This season they have successfully landed two throw triples in their LP (toe-loop and loop). No sign of the triple twist yet though, and while they started their season at a senior B (was it Nebelhorn?) finally attempting SBS double axels - both attempts in the SP and LP were downgraded and they've gone back to SBS doule flips in the SP and adding the SBS double loops in the LP.
They came 6th in a field of 15 at Europeans 2008 so Britain has a second pairs spot for 2009. Yesterday NISA annouced that the second pair going to Europeans with be Erica Risseeuw and Robert Paxton. I think Erica might be from the US?
Too bad they were placed in this position. It's really nobody's business and it seems it was used as an excuse to explain why the beat another team which is pretty petty.
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Love ya, Sinead and John!
But...if you really want to get the rumor mongers' goats, just put a bland smile on your face and let them guess themselves silly. It's nobody's business but your own how much money you have or don't have.
Personally, I hope you have tons. (I mean, tonnes.)
I think part of the issue with the low-key but ongoing talk in the figure skating world about the Kerrs' funding is that it received a fair amount of publicity in UK publications, and different numbers -- all far higher than the 70,000 pounds mentioned in the Kerrs' message -- appeared in print in various newspapers.
If I recall correctly, UKSport awarded figure skating about 500,000 pounds "for the development" of the Kerrs. Now, also IIRC, it was never clarified -- in the press, at least -- what exactly this meant.
Was it 500,000 all at once? (Not bloody likely.) Did it come with strings attached, i.e., did the Kerrs have to produce specific results? (Probably.) Was it only awarded upon submission of specific receipts for training expenses? (Sounds likely.) Did other figure skaters get any of it? (I don't know, and if not, I'll bet that's where some talk may be emanating.)
I think the publicity surrounding the award -- BTW, IIRC skeleton racing, curling and paraOlympians got similar if not larger awards -- and the fact that some folks may think "pounds" are worth two or more dollars apiece, coupled with good old-fashioned jealousy and gossip, has caused stories of "millions" to persist.