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    It starts in about 5 minutes.... NTV+ (Russian TV) webcasting it on WebTV (count down to 14th channel on the list.

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    No one's watching??

    Joannie looks great!

    Patrick got to participate.

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    I just watched gala. It was really great. Among singles, I loved Tomas, Joannie, Johnny, Yuna, and Mao. Taka was adorable. The audience sounded a bit calm for Mao. Yet, she had an encore nonetheless. They really loved Tomas, Joannie, Johnny, and Yuna, of course.

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    Abbott was fantastic! Jumps were 3R, 3A (!) and 3L. He did the short program from last year - I loved that program and was incredibly sad that he never did it cleanly. Abbott's musical versatility is amazing, at this competition he had a classical short program, a Tango-long and a Santana-exhibition.

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    I didn't get to see this- could someone who did say who skated. I'm assuming all of the medalists. I noticed in the rehearsal pictures that a couple of the junior medalists were there too. Were their performances broadcast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    The audience sounded a bit calm for Mao. Yet, she had an encore nonetheless.
    I take it that you are a really polite person? Well, I am not.

    The audience was simply rude. Yes, they applauded a bit at the beginning and a bit at the end. But there was basically no applause during the performance, not after her jumps, not during her spiral, not during the steps... And she got an encore because every gold-medal winner gets one.

    She was probably standing at the boards while Abbott skated - and witnessed how Abbott got loads of applause for his jumps, for his steps, for his spins... - and perhaps she noticed that they didn't do that for her. It's just unsportsmanlike to behave that way. I am starting to be really glad that Mao won this, just serves them right. Of course it's not Kim's fault and she deserved to win as much as Mao if she had the better skate.

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    I take it that you are a really polite person? Well, I am not.

    The audience was simply rude. Yes, they applauded a bit at the beginning and a bit at the end. But there was basically no applause during the performance, not after her jumps, not during her spiral, not during the steps... And she got an encore because every gold-medal winner gets one.

    She was probably standing at the boards while Abbott skated - and witnessed how Abbott got loads of applause for his jumps, for his steps, for his spins... - and perhaps she noticed that they didn't do that for her. It's just unsportsmanlike to behave that way. I am starting to be really glad that Mao won this, just serves them right. Of course it's not Kim's fault and she deserved to win as much as Mao if she had the better skate.
    Well, actually if you listen closely there was some applauding during her jumps and spins not much but some. I'm kind of saddened by this, but can I point out that Mao sort of rained on their parade, and it may be at this point hard for them to get into Mao.

    If I understand correctly years back it was hard for the Japanese to get into Kristi... There was absolutely no mention if I recall in any Japanese papers of Kristi's heritage, and things like that. Now seeing as Japan has grown in figure skating knowledge and have tons of skaters, they've been able to recognize that skating is more than just their skaters, Korea gets their same space.

    From what I understand though Mao does have a huge fan club in Korea, and I believe she was extremely well received at Four Continents, getting a LOT of cheers there.

    And they did cheer for her too just not as much. (Plus may I point out that Abbot was throwing triple axels in his exhibition...LOL!)

    Mao got the same cheers as Kostner got on the medal stand... I do wish though they'd have been more appreciative of Mao, but well it's not like she got no claps at all...

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    Here's an article which kind of talks about this

    One novel feature of the press attention to the Games was the almost total lack of recognition, at least explicitly, of the Japanese origins of the gold-medal figure skater, Kristi Yamaguchi, a third-generation Japanese-American who speaks no Japanese.

    Yamaguchi's ancestry was not discussed. There were no attempts to find any family here, or to trace her roots. Her name was even spelled, not in Japanese characters, but in the separate phonetic alphabet known as katakana, which is reserved for foreign names and words.
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C0A964958260

    One thing that was sad for Kristi was she didn't get a lot of endorsements some think because of her (Japanese heritage at the time there was some tensions about Japanese trade) but wasn't liked in Japan for not being Japanese enough.

    She said once she had reporters telling her she speaks nice English and she's like I should I lived her all my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bekalc View Post
    Here's an article which kind of talks about this


    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C0A964958260

    One thing that was sad for Kristi was she didn't get a lot of endorsements some think because of her (Japanese heritage at the time there was some tensions about Japanese trade) but wasn't liked in Japan for not being Japanese enough.

    She said once she had reporters telling her she speaks nice English and she's like I should I lived her all my life.
    I just wonder if Mao had relationship with Korea? If she had, then it would match the case; if not, apparently, they are totally different cases. If Mao had korean ancestry, I understand why the audiences acted like this.

    I quite agree with Medusa in this case, the audiences apparently show little respect to Mao comparing with how loud their applause toward others; on the contrary, Mao did show her respect toward the audiences.How ironic......I kindly felt I like her after this GPF in Korea

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    Quote Originally Posted by harmy18 View Post
    I just wonder if Mao had relationship with Korea? If she had, then it would match the case; if not, apparently, they are totally different cases. If Mao had korean ancestry, I understand why the audiences acted like this.

    I quite agree with Medusa in this case, the audiences apparently show little respect to Mao comparing with how loud their applause toward others; on the contrary, Mao did show her respect toward the audiences.How ironic......I kindly felt I like her after this GPF in Korea
    You would think If Mao had Korean ancestory, the audience would like her better. Just as you would think the Japanese audience would like Kristi better because she had Japanese ancestory.... (Just saying)

    The audience could have been more friendly too her. And Mao has always been very likeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bekalc View Post
    You would think If Mao had Korean ancestory, the audience would like her better. Just as you would think the Japanese audience would like Kristi better because she had Japanese ancestory.... (Just saying)

    The audience could have been more friendly too her. And Mao has always been very likeable.
    Wasn't Miki rumored to have Korean ancestory? Was she any better received than Mao? I'm dissappointed to hear the crowd didn't loosen up even after the competition, but sort of understandable. I wonder whether the crowd at 4cc was composed of more of general fs fans, and this time mostly of exclusive Yu-Na fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrlmy View Post
    Wasn't Miki rumored to have Korean ancestory? Was she any better received than Mao? I'm dissappointed to hear the crowd didn't loosen up even after the competition, but sort of understandable. I wonder whether the crowd at 4cc was composed of more of general fs fans, and this time mostly of exclusive Yu-Na fans.
    Reports are Miki does not have Korean ancestory... Who knows, but I know that the crowd clapped to Nakano's long program so she was really well received.

    AS for 4 continents, I think it may be that Yu-na wasn't there and competiting, so Mao didn't beat their hometown girl, so to speak... Also, I think tickets to the GPF were really hard to get, so maybe it wasn't the general fans who got the tickets. (who knows) In the end they did cheer for Mao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    The audience was simply rude. Yes, they applauded a bit at the beginning and a bit at the end. But there was basically no applause during the performance, not after her jumps, not during her spiral, not during the steps... And she got an encore because every gold-medal winner gets one.
    Well, I remember she said in an interview after an iceshow in Korea about her jump mistakes that the loud cheering from audience and somewhat dark light caused her mistakes. It is quite possible the audience remembered it as well and paid her respect in that way. She got quite applause after her performance.
    Besides, it is my understanding that most of the figure skating fans in Korea are young ladies and basically they root for male skaters. You can't really compare that to, you know, Mao. .
    But really, I don't think the audience was particularly rude for Mao. I saw lots of presents were throwed for Mao and THAT surprised me honestly!
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