Mao Asada vs.Yu-Na Kim - Round 2

bekalc · Feb 1, 2009

I think they are equal artistically, but I don't care for Masquerade. So I think Yu-na should get higher PCS for her program.

This being said I think if both are clean and Mao lands the two triple axels it should probably go to Mao because that two triple axel thing is pretty darn amazing.

GiuliaPlum · Feb 1, 2009

bekalc said:
I think they are equal artistically, but I don't care for Masquerade. So I think Yu-na should get higher PCS for her program.

This being said I think if both are clean and Mao lands the two triple axels it should probably go to Mao because that two triple axel thing is pretty darn amazing.

Yep, and I suspect Mao has prepared triple axel - triple toe :clap:

MrHand · Feb 1, 2009

I hope Yu-Na has the "green light" to skate her best and free to excel.

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Hsuhs · Feb 1, 2009

There is no rivalry, IMO. There's Mao with her 2 3A's and the rest hoping she'll make a mistake or two.

wonderlen3000 · Feb 1, 2009

I got a feeling this going to be Yuna round. Although i want Mao to win 4CC and Yuna to win the world, so all of them have at least one world title each. If this happen, Miki, Mao and Yuna will all be both jr. and senior world champions heading to the Olympics. Only one skater will going to be the olympics champion so at least they have a world title to their name.

bekalc · Feb 1, 2009

Hsuhs said:
There is no rivalry, IMO. There's Mao with her 2 3A's and the rest hoping she'll make a mistake or two.

That's assuming that Mao can do everything cleanly, which Mao has yet to do. Let's not get into the fact that Mao has yet to get credit for a 3/3 this season, whereas Yu-na is very consistent with hers.

IF Yu-na could just go clean with her short program, that little 3/3 could give her a nice 6 point cushion over Mao. The point is until Mao can fix her 3/3 issues, her "dominance" over Kim isn't happening.

I suspect the skater who comes on top, will be the one who finally starts skating clean.

You can say all you want that there is "no rivalry" but it is Kim and not Mao, who has the highest scores this season.

PROKOFIEV · Feb 1, 2009

Hi everyone! This is my very first post and I'm so excited to be able to join this wonderful forum.

I think that both Mao and Yu-na are really amazing skaters. Who ever thought that a female figure skater could put two 3 axels in one program and have such amazing, flawless jumps!

Something that I have noticed this season is Mao's choreography in her Masquerade program. I can imagine how difficult it would be to put so much emotion into her waltz music. It seems as though she never stops and continuously executes smooth elements for 4 minutes straight and it really amazes me how much stamina her program requires. :bow:

I'm really hoping to seeing two clean programs from Mao and Yu-na at 4CC and Worlds. These will be fun events to watch!! :yes:

Tonichelle · Feb 1, 2009

welcome to the boards, post often & post long!

shine · Feb 2, 2009

PROKOFIEV said:
Something that I have noticed this season is Mao's choreography in her Masquerade program. I can imagine how difficult it would be to put so much emotion into her waltz music. It seems as though she never stops and continuously executes smooth elements for 4 minutes straight and it really amazes me how much stamina her program requires.

Never stops stroking and doing 3 turns, that is.

MrHand · Feb 2, 2009

Stating how good a one skater is in this fourm does not change a thing. Or influence people's thinking or their eyes when they watch the skating. We can only hope the competition and venues are setup so that each skater performs to the best of their potential, everytime. There is beauty in nature -- unaltered randomness and its outcome.

I believe Mao has fully reached her skating potential and well into her decline years. Whereas Yu-Na has only reached 3 in out of 5 scale. More beautiful and "amazing" skating awaits for Yu-Na. These two skaters may meet only 4 more times in head to head competition. And olympic winner will retire. Yu-Na will most likely win all four and retire from amateur skating.

Apply all disclaimers for what said above.

kittyjake5 · Feb 2, 2009

MrHand said:
Stating how good a one skater is in this fourm does not change a thing. Or influence people's thinking or their eyes when they watch the skating. We can only hope the competition and venues are setup so that each skater performs to the best of their potential, everytime. There is beauty in nature -- unaltered randomness and its outcome.

I believe Mao has fully reached her skating potential and well into her decline years. Whereas Yu-Na has only reached 3 in out of 5 scale. More beautiful and "amazing" skating awaits for Yu-Na. These two skaters may meet only 4 more times in head to head competition. And olympic winner will retire. Yu-Na will most likely win all four and retire from amateur skating.

Apply all disclaimers for what said above.

Don't worry I will.

ANW · Feb 2, 2009

that may not be true. Yu-Na's recent struggle on the loop could be an indication she is already in the downturn. And noticeably, the loop and salchow which gave her troubles are both edge jumps.

MrHand said:
I believe Mao has fully reached her skating potential and well into her decline years. Whereas Yu-Na has only reached 3 in out of 5 scale. More beautiful and "amazing" skating awaits for Yu-Na. These two skaters may meet only 4 more times in head to head competition. And olympic winner will retire. Yu-Na will most likely win all four and retire from amateur skating.

Apply all disclaimers for what said above.

R.D. · Feb 2, 2009

I agree that Asada has maxed her potential. However, I do NOT agree that she is on the downswing just yet. TEB was an aberration...she seemed to do much better at GPF. Anyway, I think that's all I'll say.

shine · Feb 2, 2009

MrHand said:
Stating how good a one skater is in this fourm does not change a thing. Or influence people's thinking or their eyes when they watch the skating.

Maybe you should read this statement again yourself? :laugh:

shine · Feb 2, 2009

Hsuhs said:
There is no rivalry, IMO. There's Mao with her 2 3A's and the rest hoping she'll make a mistake or two.

This statement is rather presumptuous. She landed both he 3A's and only scored only 123, which is a very beatable score. That tells me Asada landing both of her 3A's doesn't automatically make her unbeatable at all.

ks777 · Feb 3, 2009

I hope Yuna will win because her programs are so beautifully choreographed. On the other hand, Mao's programs this season are really.. boring and not well choreographed.

I hope Akiko Suzuki medals!!

mycelticblessing · Feb 3, 2009

Masquerade Waltz? Boring? :laugh:

I don't see how anyone can say that. No doubt Kim's SP is more well choreographed than Mao, but it's definitely not boring!

indicatoto101 · Feb 3, 2009

ANW said:
that may not be true. Yu-Na's recent struggle on the loop could be an indication she is already in the downturn. And noticeably, the loop and salchow which gave her troubles are both edge jumps.

Her struggle with the loop isn't recent. I recall Yuna only landing one loop in what two years? But even with 4 triples, she can still manage to outscore Mao because Mao hasn't maxed out her spins, and Yuna gets slightly her PCS for her LP program.

shine · Feb 3, 2009

mycelticblessing said:
Masquerade Waltz? Boring? I don't see how anyone can say that. No doubt Kim's SP is more well choreographed than Mao, but it's definitely not boring!

Masquerade Waltz is Mao's LP, I'm not sure why it is compared to Yuna's SP.
And add me to the list of those who find Asada's LP boring. Like I've said before, not only is the music monotonous, the choreography is pretty much non-existent since it basically consists of stroking, simple 3-turns and arm waving. It doesn't help that the SLSS at the end just drags on and on.
OTOH, I find her SP to be a much better choreographed program.

100yen · Feb 11, 2009

I'm really going to probably get bashed for saying this (since it's religious)...

But I think since Yuna converted to Catholicism her skating has gotten so much better. Maybe God is helping to support and protect her?

Or faith itself is just making her feel better about her programs...

Mao Asada vs.Yu-Na Kim - Round 2

bekalc

GiuliaPlum

MrHand

Hsuhs

wonderlen3000

bekalc

PROKOFIEV

Tonichelle

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shine

MrHand

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ANW

R.D.

shine

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ks777

mycelticblessing

indicatoto101

shine

100yen

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