Which lady jumped the first 3-3-2 combo in competition?

eleonora.d · Jan 8, 2009

I only know about Shizuka Arakawa,Carolina Kostner in several Long Programs and Ando but I don't know who jumped it first in competition and if there were others before them.
Maybe Slutskaya?

Arakawa
Worlds 2004
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=6xzGdVragbo

Practices 3-3-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx3RluvzPmU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SauJKulmYlU

Galas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6csWtMQhSY
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=tExwCLrjkqk

Kostner
Worlds 2004 3flip 3toe 2lo
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=qGZ8Gu_shO0
Worlds 2005 3flip 3 toe 2 toe
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=omkV2Za9nws
Euros 2007 3 flip 3 toe 2 lo
Only available here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXOyulOyTW0
Euros 2008 3 flip 3 toe 2 toe
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=3zsVyTKyz54
Worlds 2008 3flip3toe2lo
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=Np9fDeX8vTQ&feature=related

practice 3-3-3
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=JjcRmfcyLiY

Ando
I think it was some Gp or national but can't find a video

You may help me finding other ladies / clips!

gkelly · Jan 8, 2009

I *think* that Elena Sokolova once attempted something like 3T-3T-2Lo, maybe 2001 Cup of Russia? Sometime around then. It's not on youtube, so I can't verify from work.

Eurofan · Jan 8, 2009

I think it was Slutskaia at the '01 Worlds: 3S-3L-2L

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_qk0QnGQ8&feature=related

champs · Jan 8, 2009

eleonora.d said:
Ando
I think it was some Gp or national but can't find a video

She did 3Lz-3Lo-2T in her free skating at 2004 NHK.

lcd · Jan 8, 2009

I'm probably wrong, ... but wasn't it Midori Ito?

Eurofan · Jan 8, 2009

I thought Ito was the first lady to do a triple-triple combination. (I know Debi Thomas did one, but don't know which came first.)

gkelly · Jan 8, 2009

Eurofan said:
I thought Ito was the first lady to do a triple-triple combination. (I know Debi Thomas did one, but don't know which came first.)

Ito was the first lady to do a triple-triple combination in international competition -- at 1982 Junior Worlds when she was 12.

You're probably right about Slutskaya being the first to do triple-triple-double.

gio · Jan 9, 2009

Do you know who was the first to do a 3-2 combo?

antmanb · Jan 9, 2009

Eurofan said:
I think it was Slutskaia at the '01 Worlds: 3S-3L-2L

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_qk0QnGQ8&feature=related

That's the one that immediately came to my mind.

gio said:
Do you know who was the first to do a 3-2 combo?

This is of no help whatsoever as i cannot remember the link but perhaps it will jog someone else's memory. I once stumbled upon a website that hoped to list all of the first jumps/jump combinations. The table (which i think was brightly coloured) split each jump (i think from single right up to quad where completed) into categories of mens and ladies. I think it might have even listed attempts that were not successful of difficult jumps like quad attempts by Bonaly.

I am certain it included a reference to first 3/2 combo by a lady.

Does this jog anyone else's memory?

Ant

mskater93 · Jan 9, 2009

Probably Fratiane was the first to land a 3/2

russell30 · Jan 9, 2009

First lady to do triple/triple/double was surya bonaly at 1994 worlds, salchow, toeloop, double toe

Eurofan · Jan 9, 2009

Was Bonaly's 3-3-2 a jump combination or a jump sequence? It looks like there's a step or half loop in between the first two jumps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF2P2WSyxqc

champs · Jan 9, 2009

I have a question to those who have watched figureskating for many years. When was the three jump combination such as the 3-3-2 discussed in this thread officially "allowed" for the first time in international competitions, in the men's or the ladies' events? Or has such a jump combo always been allowed? I am wondering this because from what I watched I don't think Midori Ito ever attempted a three jump combo in competitions, though I believe she was well capable of landing one if she practiced and tried in a competition. Probably the same can be said for Tonya Harding and Kristi Yamaguchi as well.

dangao · Jan 9, 2009

bonaly was the first lady to land a 3/3/2 combo. She did it at 1991 skate canada, 3toe/3toe/2toe

gkelly · Jan 9, 2009

champs said:
I have a question to those who have watched figureskating for many years. When was the three jump combination such as the 3-3-2 discussed in this thread officially "allowed" for the first time in international competitions, in the men's or the ladies' events? Or has such a jump combo always been allowed?

Three-jump combinations have always been allowed in long programs. They're more common at lower levels when all the jumps are doubles or singles rather than any of them being triples.

Although there had been limits on the total number of combinations allowed in a program at least since the mid-90s, it's only since the new well-balanced program rules that were introduced with the new judging system that combinations have been limited to no more than one three-jump combination and the combinations being limited to no more than three jumps.

champs · Jan 10, 2009

gkelly, thanks for the answer. Maybe not really worth executing a combo such as 3-2-2 compared with 3-2 or 3-3 back in the early 90s? But then, wow, dangao just pointed out Bonaly did 3-3-2 in 1991, that's impressive.

Blades of Passion · Jan 10, 2009

Eurofan said:
I think it was Slutskaia at the '01 Worlds: 3S-3L-2L

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_qk0QnGQ8&feature=related

Not a 3S - 3L - 2L, but a 3S - 3L< - 2T

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