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Thanks for the results. Happy to see Jamai win the bronze,
I really like his skating.
I really like his skating.
I wonder what happen to Laney, it does not appear that she fell.
No, the base value is the same for a UR quad toe and a 3T. The 3T Kevin had in his LP was in the second half, so he got an extra 10% on the base value. Of course the negative GOEs on the UR quad made it almost worthless, but that's true for any downgraded jump. I've noticed that the judges no longer give URs an automatic -3; I guess they think the skaters are being punished enough by losing most of the base value.the value of a downgraded 4T:
I was looking at the guys' grades in detail, and I noticed that KVDP did a 4T that was underoatated, so its base value is 4 points. How is that possible??? That's less than a 3T!!! No wonder no-one is taking risks!
1) KVDP's LP artistic grade:
I usually love Kevin, but I still don't get why this year's LP is getting such high grades when it's awful.
That's not true. He won with his SP, which isn't at all awful (aside from those hip movements at the start) . Personally I didn't think the LP was awful. It wasn't Brian at his best, but he hasn't been at his best in an LP all season, and this at least showed potential (BTW, I think he hasn't finished first in the LP in any international event since 2007 Euros). To me, the new LP looked like what it is - a work in progress. I hope to see it better performed at Worlds.Speaking of awful, wasn't Brian Joubert's new long program awful, at least at the first showing in Euros? Strictly speaking, it wasn't even a program. But he won with it.
That's not true. He won with his SP, which isn't at all awful (aside from those hip movements at the start) . Personally I didn't think the LP was awful. It wasn't Brian at his best, but he hasn't been at his best in an LP all season, and this at least showed potential (BTW, I think he hasn't finished first in the LP in any international event since 2007 Euros). To me, the new LP looked like what it is - a work in progress. I hope to see it better performed at Worlds.
Unfortunately, I believe she only had one ratified triple :no:
Speaking of awful, wasn't Brian Joubert's new long program awful, at least at the first showing in Euros? Strictly speaking, it wasn't even a program. But he won with it.
If anything, I have to question Contesti's PCS - from what I've seen of him, 74 seems excessive.
As Hsuhs pointed out, any discussion of Joubert is kind of peripheral to this thread because he couldn't compete in the Challenge Cup. A couple of things, though:Yes, it really was. Brian is using 2 completely different pieces of music badly mixed. Anyway most part of the program was on the music of Requiem for a dream, which was Tomas Verner's 2006 and 2007 long program music. It looked very strange to me - and to only-, normally no one wouldn't use your direct competitor's music of just 2 seasons ago. The second part is taken from Matrix instead. Yes, again
I remember in Helsinki he told the media, "yea, the music doesn't really tell a story". What? Has he ever seen "Requiem for a dream" movie??
But isn't this year's LP of his practically the same as last year's? Kev rocked with that program in G-borg, and he rocked again yesterday (people in the arena went nuts ).
Speaking of awful, wasn't Brian Joubert's new long program awful, at least at the first showing in Euros? Strictly speaking, it wasn't even a program. But he won with it.