I don't care that Brian likes Alissa, but I don't think he should be going on and on about teenage jumping beans and blaming them for all the sports woes. He didn't seem to have a problem with it, when Michelle was the jumping bean...This sport has always had teennage stars.. But to be quite frank, older stars can be competitive too.
Last edited by bekalc; 02-15-2009 at 01:39 AM.
I think Alissa has long been very popular and a fan favorite in the underdog role. The reason she is not a popular champion is because a very large number of fans feel that she did not deserve to win.Originally Posted by feraina
I am not talking about anything. I was trying to get GSRossano to dish the dirt and reveal who he was talkking about in his post. (I knew he wouldn't, though, because if he had wanted to name names he would have done so.)What are you talking about?
Still, I found his post intriguing.
As for what Mr. Goldberg has done so far in his job of looking after Caroline's interests, I don't know. But I certainly wouldn't fault him if he is promoting the heck out of her behind the scenes. That's his job, after all. The same as he did for previous clients such as Michelle Kwan and Mary Lou Retton, both of whom he guided to millionaire status.
If I were a sports agent I'd grab up Caroline in a hot second, if I could convince her to sign with me. My first pitch would be to Disney: "Hey, Mickey, it's time to jettison Michelle and go with What's Happening Now!
Is Michelle even working for/with them these days? Until Phelps screwed up with his drug habit he was the new best friend of The Mouse.
People are interested because Michelle was/is a big star. Caroline meets with Michelle on a very regular basis (if not daily then at least weekly), now that Michelle's done with school. Have you heard anything about that? Hardly, I'd bet. You make it sound like the agent or the media or whoever else is deliberately trying to talk up Caroline's contact with Michelle. The truth is, their families are close, Caroline skates at their rink and gets choreography from Karen, and advice from Michelle. Should she purposely try to hide that fact?
If he was only being positive about Alissa it would hardly bother me. But he manages to be quite explicitly negative about the *other* skaters. "It does skating no good to be dominated by teenagers..." what kind of unsportsman-like talk is that? If Alissa can out-jump/compete her rivals, good for her. But to hint that Alissa is "good for the sport" just because she's more mature and experienced in life, well. That doesn't sound much like a sport, does it?Brian should be tarred and feathered for staying positive of a skater he's mentored.
the agent wouldn't be doing his job if he WASN'T talking her up. I'm not saying it's a negative thing.
more than likely the agent is what is setting up these media articles... the newspapers/magazines (outside of skating specific) don't seek random little girls out who skate on TV... the agents keep pushing for the attention.
and from a TV aspect I think Brian is more right than wrong. but right, he didn't bow to Caroline so he's a horrible horrible person.
Michael Phelps has a drug habit? Do you know something we don't? He smoked some pot at a party. He did something really dumb. If he were a pothead or something more serious I doubt that he would have all of those gold medals to his credit.
then why is he with some group that wants to legalize it?
and I know of one reigning champion of a winter sport (not skating) who is known to have a drug habit and his sport looks the otherway... or at least, the ones running his sport do.
Just curious - what do you have to back up these claims?
Some people think pot should be legalized as a matter of principle not because they indulge.
Oh so now you are implying that Phelps IS a drug addict but that the swimming fed looks the other way just because you heard that another (winter sports) athlete uses drugs and his fed looks the other way? Where do you get your news from? Not to mention your logic?
Last edited by yelyoh; 02-16-2009 at 07:26 PM.
I don't know about drugs, but if it is Bode Miller that we are talking about here, he went on 60 Minutes after he wiped out at the Turin Olympics and said, "It's not easy to ski when you're wasted."
He also said that, although he stunk at skiing at the games, he deserved the gold medal for partying.
gotta love my generation :sheesh:He also said that, although he stunk at skiing at the games, he deserved the gold medal for partying.
I am not trying to knock the youngsters here but I have to say I agree with some things in the article. I know Michelle was young when she started skating at Nationals but when she won her first title, she did it with a beautiful programs and great jumps, she may not have won a gold medal at the Olympics but she had longevity and I haven't seen longevity since her or consistency.
I know Mao and Yuna have dominated the last 2-3 years and I am sure that is making for great ratings in Korea and Japan. I think what US skating needs also is a good rivalry(i'm thinking yamaguchi, harding, kerrigan in 91 and Michelle, Irina, Sasha, Michelle/Bobek, well you know what I mean) I would like to see skating become as popular as it was.
I also miss the 6.0 systems, I really don't see cop brining anything to skating. I hate watching a great program then be left to wonder why that skater is in third rather than first.
Just some thoughts
CoP came in after skating was already losing its following in the US...
unfortunately what needs to happen is another good whack to a leg.
That is what makes our world sad
There is nothing wrong, imo, with the Technial Score of the CoP. The nitty gritty of it puts doubters to reconsider the outcome if they've jumped to conclusions. My only suggestion would be to rid itself of the plus GoEs or rid the scores in the PC.I also miss the 6.0 systems, I really don't see cop brining anything to skating. I hate watching a great program then be left to wonder why that skater is in third rather than first.
Just some thoughts
The PC scores are way off the concept of what is considered how well all that tech was presented with the music, etc, except for a nod in the lower half of the headings for scoring.
If the skater did beautiful jumps, beautifuly spins, beautiful footwork, show it in the PC scores and forget about Skating Ability. That's already obvious.
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