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    1 Q Madison CHOCK / Greg ZUERLEIN USA 57.29 32.60 24.69 6.50 6.45 6.45 6.60 6.50 0.00 #28
    2 Q Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Jonathan GUERREIRO RUS 53.80 30.60 23.20 6.10 5.95 6.10 6.25 6.15 0.00 #21
    3 Q Madison HUBBELL / Keiffer HUBBELL USA 53.44 30.50 22.94 6.05 5.95 6.10 6.05 6.05 0.00 #24
    4 Q Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA 52.10 30.70 21.40 5.80 5.65 5.50 5.65 5.55 0.00 #29
    5 Q Ekaterina PUSHKASH / Dmitri KISELEV RUS 50.30 28.50 21.80 5.75 5.65 5.70 5.85 5.75 0.00 #30
    6 Q Kharis RALPH / Asher HILL CAN 49.58 28.50 21.08 5.65 5.50 5.60 5.50 5.50 0.00 #23
    7 Q Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Matej NOVAK CZE 49.18 29.20 19.98 5.20 5.10 5.35 5.30 5.35 0.00 #12
    8 Q Karen ROUTHIER / Eric SAUCKE-LACELLE CAN 48.06 27.70 20.36 5.40 5.30 5.35 5.40 5.35 0.00 #25
    9 Q Lorenza ALESSANDRINI / Simone VATURI ITA 47.67 27.40 20.27 5.35 5.10 5.35 5.50 5.40 0.00 #22
    10 Q Terra FINDLAY / Benoit RICHAUD FRA 47.11 28.00 19.11 5.05 4.85 5.10 5.05 5.10 0.00 #19
    11 Q Alisa AGAFONOVA / Dmitri DUN UKR 45.55 25.80 19.75 5.25 5.10 5.20 5.25 5.20 0.00 #27
    12 Q Tarrah HARVEY / Keith GAGNON CAN 45.33 27.00 18.33 4.85 4.70 4.75 4.90 4.90 0.00 #16
    13 Q Marina ANTIPOVA / Artem KUDASHEV RUS 45.00 25.70 19.30 5.15 4.95 5.05 5.15 5.10 0.00 #26
    14 Q Genevieve DEUTCH / Evan ROBERTS GBR 41.69 24.60 17.09 4.55 4.45 4.60 4.55 4.40 0.00 #13
    15 Q Nikola VISNOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK 40.16 24.00 16.16 4.25 4.15 4.25 4.40 4.25 0.00 #17
    16 Q Nikki GEORGIADIS / Graham HOCKLEY GRE 39.52 23.80 15.72 4.20 4.00 4.10 4.25 4.15 0.00 #20
    17 Q Anastasia GALYETA / Alexei SHUMSKI UKR 39.17 23.70 15.47 4.15 4.00 4.10 4.15 4.00 0.00 #18
    18 Q Sonja PAULI / Tobias EISENBAUER AUT 38.81 23.50 15.31 4.15 3.90 4.05 4.15 3.95 0.00 #15
    19 Q Charlene GUIGNARD / Guillaume PAULMIER FRA 38.22 21.70 16.52 4.40 4.25 4.30 4.45 4.35 0.00 #11
    20 Q Oksana KLIMOVA / Sasha PALOMÄKI FIN 38.08 23.80 14.28 3.75 3.60 3.80 3.95 3.75 0.00 #5
    21 Q Dominique DIECK / Michael ZENKNER GER 37.65 23.40 14.25 3.75 3.70 3.80 3.85 3.70 0.00 #9
    22 Lesia VALADZENKAVA / Vitali VAKUNOV BLR 37.59 23.80 13.79 3.60 3.55 3.70 3.75 3.60 0.00 #3
    23 Q Paola AMATI / Marco FABBRI ITA 37.38 22.90 14.48 3.90 3.70 3.80 3.95 3.75 0.00 #4
    24 Q Dora TUROCZI / Balazs MAJOR HUN 37.17 23.70 13.47 3.60 3.55 3.55 3.70 3.40 0.00 #1
    25 Q Xueting GUAN / Meng WANG CHN 36.16 20.80 16.36 4.45 4.35 4.20 4.25 4.25 1.00 #14
    26 Justyna PLUTOWSKA / Dawid PIETRZYNSKI POL 34.58 20.10 14.48 3.90 3.65 3.70 3.95 3.85 0.00 #2
    27 Ramona ELSENER / Florian ROOST SUI 34.50 20.50 14.00 3.75 3.55 3.75 3.85 3.60 0.00 #10
    28 Kristina KIUDMAA / Aleksei TROHLEV EST 33.02 19.82 13.20 3.45 3.35 3.40 3.70 3.50 0.00 #6
    29 Q Lora SEMOVA / Dimitar LICHEV BUL 31.28 18.26 13.02 3.55 3.25 3.45 3.60 3.35 0.00 #7
    30 Alissandra ARONOW / Aleksandr PIROGOV LTU 30.92 18.50 12.42 3.40 3.10 3.40 3.30 3.20 0.00 #8

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    Overall scores:

    FPl. Name Nation Points CD OD FD
    1 Madison CHOCK / Greg ZUERLEIN USA
    90.44 1 1
    2 Madison HUBBELL / Keiffer HUBBELL USA
    84.83 2 3
    3 Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Jonathan GUERREIRO RUS
    82.82 7 2
    4 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA
    81.81 5 4
    5 Ekaterina PUSHKASH / Dmitri KISELEV RUS
    80.74 3 5
    6 Kharis RALPH / Asher HILL CAN
    79.67 4 6
    7 Karen ROUTHIER / Eric SAUCKE-LACELLE CAN
    77.30 6 8
    8 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Matej NOVAK CZE
    76.98 11 7
    9 Lorenza ALESSANDRINI / Simone VATURI ITA
    75.48 10 9
    10 Terra FINDLAY / Benoit RICHAUD FRA
    73.93 13 10
    11 Marina ANTIPOVA / Artem KUDASHEV RUS
    73.57 8 13
    12 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Dmitri DUN UKR
    73.47 9 11
    13 Tarrah HARVEY / Keith GAGNON CAN
    72.86 12 12
    14 Genevieve DEUTCH / Evan ROBERTS GBR
    68.06 14 14
    15 Sonja PAULI / Tobias EISENBAUER AUT
    63.33 17 18
    16 Nikola VISNOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK
    62.92 20 15
    17 Charlene GUIGNARD / Guillaume PAULMIER FRA
    62.78 16 19
    18 Nikki GEORGIADIS / Graham HOCKLEY GRE
    62.73 18 16
    19 Anastasia GALYETA / Alexei SHUMSKI UKR
    62.29 19 17
    20 Xueting GUAN / Meng WANG CHN
    61.53 15 25
    21 Oksana KLIMOVA / Sasha PALOMÄKI FIN
    60.52 23 20
    22 Dominique DIECK / Michael ZENKNER GER
    60.13 22 21
    23 Paola AMATI / Marco FABBRI ITA
    59.99 21 23
    24 Dora TUROCZI / Balazs MAJOR HUN
    59.40 24 24
    25 Lesia VALADZENKAVA / Vitali VAKUNOV BLR
    57.95 28 22
    26 Justyna PLUTOWSKA / Dawid PIETRZYNSKI POL
    56.44 25 26
    27 Ramona ELSENER / Florian ROOST SUI
    54.41 30 27
    28 Kristina KIUDMAA / Aleksei TROHLEV EST
    53.47 27 28
    29 Alissandra ARONOW / Aleksandr PIROGOV LTU
    52.72 26 30
    30 Lora SEMOVA / Dimitar LICHEV BUL
    51.57 29 29
    Ariana WEINTRAUB / Avidan BROWN ISR
    NQD 31
    Sara HURTADO / Adria DIAZ ESP
    NQD 32
    Maria POPKOVA / Viktor KOVALENKO UZB
    NQD 33

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    I wouldn't have had the Hubbells in second, although I know they skate with great power and speed, and watching on the little screen, I am probably ignoring that.

    I would have R&G ahead of the Hubbells, and Shibs also ahead of Hubbells. Shibs were far apart, but swing is a far apart dance, so it's less offensive.

    I also really liked Ralph & Hill and Mysliveckova & Novak.

    I'm at a loss where to put C&Z-they had harder skills, but some sloppiness today. Perhaps 3rd in the OD, ahead of Hubbells. Then R&H and M&N.

    Since I have the IN feed, and since its sound is not always synched properly, it's hard for me to say definitively which of Agafanova & Dun was off the music-but one of them surely was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I wouldn't have had the Hubbells in second, although I know they skate with great power and speed, and watching on the little screen, I am probably ignoring that.

    I would have R&G ahead of the Hubbells, and Shibs also ahead of Hubbells. Shibs were far apart, but swing is a far apart dance, so it's less offensive.

    I also really liked Ralph & Hill and Mysliveckova & Novak.

    I'm at a loss where to put C&Z-they had harder skills, but some sloppiness today. Perhaps 3rd in the OD, ahead of Hubbells. Then R&H and M&N.

    Since I have the IN feed, and since its sound is not always synched properly, it's hard for me to say definitively which of the 2 was off the music-but one of them surely was.
    Thank you for the report.
    Guys, do you think C/Z is really so far from another teams? They have 6 points over Hubbels. Now we couldnt see this at senor competitions.....
    Who was with C/Z and Shibutany - Igor?

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    Thanks Doris for all of the updates. You are the best!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I wouldn't have had the Hubbells in second,
    The Hubbells were 3rd in the OD.
    I haven't seen it and I'm personnaly not really a fan of the theme this year so I can't judge.

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    I can understand why the judges put C/Z first - speed, good edging, powerful coach, tough elements. But IMO, their performance wasn't so astronomically superior to the two or three teams behind them, and they didn't capture the theme as well as other teams did. YMMV.

    I have a bigger problem with the scoring than the actual standings. I don't think C/Z deserved as big as a lead as they have. I do not think they were 4 points better today than the Hubbells or Riazanova/Guerreiro.
    Last edited by oleada; 02-26-2009 at 12:22 PM.

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    As I've said before, judges already have the placements before the competition. What they look for only are errors. They do not look for pluses. It's more obvious in Senior Division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    As I've said before, judges already have the placements before the competition. What they look for only are errors. They do not look for pluses. It's more obvious in Senior Division.
    Jositz, seems you are not alone in this thinking. Have received emails from friend who is at the event as a member of a non-US delegation (won't say which but not one with a team in the top 6) and the point gap at the top has many completely puzzled as the performances from the top 6 seemed much more comparable than the scores would suggest.

    Doris, your pbps are amazing as always. Thank you for all of your effort and insightful comments.

    As it does seem that the champion has been all but decided in this event, would be interested to know how people think two performances of essentially the same Shpilband "Phantom" program compare? C/Z have enjoyed success reprising what is essentially the same music cut and choreographic element placement that Shpilband choreographed for the lovely Lithuanians, Drobiazko and Polivas from when he coached them for the 2006 Olympics.

    http://www.flickdrop.com/viewvideo/1..._Winter_Games/

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrLCrZOgXBQ

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    I see the music cuts as the same, and the starting and ending elements are similar (start with pair spin, end with rotational lift), but other than that, not so much. The other lifts are differently placed and very different between the two program.

    Given that they are the same music cuts, it's natural that they feel similar.

    BTW, D&V should have scored higher for that program. That's a pretty technical COP dance they did. I don' t think they got proper credit on the technical mark, back in the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Loved that Greek team. They captured the music of The Boy Friend, quite well. The 20s were as special as the 40s for young adults to dance.
    I'm pretty sure the Greek team skated to the soundtrack of "Thoroughly Modern Millie," and not "the Boy Friend."

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    here's what their bio says:

    Charleston (1920s): Thoroughly Modern Millie - Jazz Baby by M. K. Jerome, B. Merrill
    Foxtrot (1920s): Thoroughly Modern Millie - Jimmy by J. Thompson
    Charleston (1920s): Thoroughly Modern Millie by J. v. Heusen, S. Cahn

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