New Michelle Kwan Article

Marine63 · Mar 23, 2009

I ran across this article this morning in the Washington Post. IMO, I think Michelle is enjoying her life too much to think about mounting a comeback. What is your opinion?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/23/AR2009032300682.html

Mathman · Mar 23, 2009

Earlier this month, on her fourth trip as an American Public Diplomacy Envoy for the U.S. Department of State's Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs, Kwan met with high-achieving students in Kiev, Yalta, Sevastopol, Bakhchisarai and Odessa, Ukraine. The permanent post will require another trip later this year, she said.

Does "permanent post" mean that the Public Diplomacy Envoy program has been officially extended by the Obama administration? President Bush renewed the program for a number of months at the end of his term.

Things I would like to ask Michelle (not that she would answer any of them :laugh:

):

1. Who did you find the more personally engaging, Democrat Bill Clinton or Republican George W. Bush? Have you met president Obama yet? (MK, along with vice president Joe Biden, did represent the Obama administration at a Special Olympics competition last month.)

2. In your current State Department post, you are "an athlete, not a politician." As such, everybody loves you.

If you get serious about partisan politics, you will have to take stands on controversial issues and make your opinions and convictions a matter of public record. Then half the people will hate you.

Are you prepared for that?

3. Which foreign dignitaries were you particularly impressed with. Or do you like meeting with children and ordinary folks better?

4. Are you actively involved in the management of the East-West Ice Palace? Are you finding it to be a challenge in this dismal economy? Do you enjoy dealing with financial movers and shakers, like the big shots at the East-West Bank...and

5. ...have you given any thought yet to lining up financial backing for a new ice tour? (Michelle Kwan presents the New Champions on Ice.)

6. Michelle, as a role model for girls and young women, you are the gold standard. :love:

(OK, number 6 wasn't a question.

)

dannyascii · Mar 23, 2009

As desperately as I want a Kwan comeback, I don't think it's realistic.

It really doesn't even have anything to do with her age; I just don't see her fairing well in the CoP system. She'd have to change her style so much, and I just don't see her having enough time to do that. Plus, she seems happy with her current life.
At yet... "some figure skating fans would hold on to hope for their favorite eligible skaters, hope that some day all their dreams will come true. If these elite skaters can dare to hold on to "the impossible dream," after-all, then so can the rest of us, right?"
<3

visaliakid · Mar 23, 2009

I don't think the drive to compete that Michelle demonstrated all these years has in any way diminished yet. Whatever decision she ultimately makes, I believe that her witnessing Worlds, reporting on it, viewing it, interacting with the competitors, hearing the roar of the crowd and the awarding of medals will only serve to ignite her passion to return competitively to the ice once more.

Mathman · Mar 23, 2009

I think this is the key quote:

Should she try to earn a spot at the Winter Games in Vancouver next year?

The answer is not as obvious as in her teenage years. She doesn't know if she can muster the single-minded determination that drove her to five world titles.

demarinis5 · Mar 23, 2009

Thanks for posting, great article.

dannyascii · Mar 29, 2009

dannyascii said:
As desperately as I want a Kwan comeback, I don't think it's realistic. It really doesn't even have anything to do with her age; I just don't see her fairing well in the CoP system. She'd have to change her style so much, and I just don't see her having enough time to do that. Plus, she seems happy with her current life.
At yet... "some figure skating fans would hold on to hope for their favorite eligible skaters, hope that some day all their dreams will come true. If these elite skaters can dare to hold on to "the impossible dream," after-all, then so can the rest of us, right?"
<3

Changed my mind. With the state of American women's figure skating right now, why not? She can beat Czisny and Nagasu, and probably Flatt. And honestly, I think as long as she gets in top 4 at nationals, she would be sent to the olympics. Can she beat Kim? Honestly probably not. But look at Joannie Rochette. Michelle Kwan is definitely capable of what Rochette did at worlds, and that got a silver medal. So....y'never know...
I say one more go! :rock:

asparaguss · Mar 29, 2009

It's just hilarious how she keeps milking the press with rumours of a "comeback" that is never, and was never, going to happen.

I suppose what I don't understand is why people think it's either desirable or possible. When skaters' careers are pronuonced over at 21, why would a much older skater be seen as having anything like a competitive chance?

Michelle Kwan is definitely capable of what Rochette did at worlds

You mean ten years ago?

TripletA · Mar 29, 2009

asparaguss said:
It's just hilarious how she keeps milking the press with rumours of a "comeback" that is never, and was never, going to happen.

I suppose what I don't understand is why people think it's either desirable or possible. When skaters' careers are pronuonced over at 21, why would a much older skater be seen as having anything like a competitive chance?

You mean ten years ago?

You don't think Michelle can compete 5 triples?

That article is not up to date. On the broadcast Michelle said and I am quoting here "I have all of my triples back" sounds to me like someone is training for something.

Michelle is not milking anything. She is making money. She did a job for NBC. Answering a question is not milking anything.

Tinymavy15 · Mar 29, 2009

from what she said during the NBC broadcast and what she said here (not what the author said) i think she is not seriously considering a comeback. I think she will always have the desire to go to the rink and skate, because she does love it so much, but if she was planing a comeback she would not have applied to grad school and she would be training more. just my 2 cents.

TripletA · Mar 29, 2009

People do not re-learn ALL their triples if they have no intentions of at least trying to compete again.

attyfan · Mar 29, 2009

I also doubt that MK will mount a comeback. I think, however, she doesn't want to "cap" herself while she tries to see what she is physically capable of doing -- it may be easier for her to "stretch herself" with an "anything is possible" mindset, rather than a "no matter what, ___ is impossible" mindset.

tully · Mar 29, 2009

When prompted by Bob Costas, after Yuna's performance, kwan offered with a laugh, 'I think I'm having second thoughts [about comeback]' which on it's face seems like nonserious network banter. But I think it was more telling than that-- maybe a little bit of the 'inner voice' coming out. She MUST know (and Cohen must know for that matter), there's no hope of gold. And probably not silver. They'd be fighting for bronze. I don't see how that could be worth it for her.

bronxgirl · Mar 29, 2009

tully said:
When prompted by Bob Costas, after Yuna's performance, kwan offered with a laugh, 'I think I'm having second thoughts [about comeback]' which on it's face seems like nonserious network banter. But I think it was more telling than that-- maybe a little bit of the 'inner voice' coming out. She MUST know (and Cohen must know for that matter), there's no hope of gold. And probably not silver. They'd be fighting for bronze. I don't see how that could be worth it for her.

And as "everyone" knew, Irina was going to be the gold medalist in 2006. The ice is slippery, even for the great ones

visaliakid · Mar 30, 2009

dannyascii said:
Changed my mind. With the state of American women's figure skating right now, why not? She can beat Czisny and Nagasu, and probably Flatt. And honestly, I think as long as she gets in top 4 at nationals, she would be sent to the olympics. Can she beat Kim? Honestly probably not. But look at Joannie Rochette. Michelle Kwan is definitely capable of what Rochette did at worlds, and that got a silver medal. So....y'never know...
I say one more go!

The way has been cleared for her invitation to 2 grand prix events it appears!

2009 -2010 ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Announcement

http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=1403

Qualifications of the skaters: Section 2 - Designation of the Skaters: 2.2 Invited Skaters/Couples

Paragraph (e.)

Skaters/couples, seeded in any previous year (place 1 to 6 in the respective World Championships), and who due to injury or no fault of their own, were forced to sit out competitive season(s) could be considered for selection for up to 2 assignments, if they return to competitive skating.

Bring on Michelle and Sasha and let them attempt to qualify for the next Olympic team.

Medusa · Mar 30, 2009

visaliakid said:
Bring on Michelle and Sasha and let them attempt to qualify for the next Olympic team.

and who due to injury or no fault of their own, were forced to sit out competitive season(s)

What health problem did Sasha have that made her sit out the last seasons but allowed her to make loads of cash touring, doing some acting etc.?

I think this rule was more or less instated for one specific case: Daisuke Takahashi.

Kwanford Wife · Mar 30, 2009

asparaguss said:
It's just hilarious how she keeps milking the press with rumours of a "comeback" that is never, and was never, going to happen.

I suppose what I don't understand is why people think it's either desirable or possible. When skaters' careers are pronuonced over at 21, why would a much older skater be seen as having anything like a competitive chance?

You mean ten years ago?[/QUOTE]

I should know better by now but this is just funny...

are you seriously, serious?

Kathy · Mar 31, 2009

Medusa said:
What health problem did Sasha have that made her sit out the last seasons but allowed her to make loads of cash touring, doing some acting etc.?

I think this rule was more or less instated for one specific case: Daisuke Takahashi.

Well it may have been instated for one case - or more than one - but as I read it, it would surely apply to Michelle.

asparaguss · Mar 31, 2009

TripletA said:
You don't think Michelle can compete 5 triples?

That article is not up to date. On the broadcast Michelle said and I am quoting here "I have all of my triples back"

I'm sorry, where was this recent competition where Michelle completed 5 triples? What's that? Oh, Michelle only said she has her triples back.

Well, that's all the proof I need. Heck, they should just give her the gold medal, if she says her skating is at that level.

Okay, there wasn't a competition. Fine. So where was the video footage of Michelle at the rink completing 5 triples? There isn't any?

I'm sure Meissner, etc. can occasionally complete each of the 5 triples if she keeps trying in a pressure-free practice rink. That doesn't mean she can do all 5 consistently in a single program. At a competition.

But hey, if Michelle says she can do all this, that's just peachy. It means she can forever keep up the illusion for her worshippers that she could just sweep in and get a gold any old time she wants, and never actually prove anything on the ice.

It's a bit like how Queen Elizabeth I's portrait painters always painted their subject as 16ish and young, no matter how old and haggard she grew in real life.

Kathy · Mar 31, 2009

asparaguss said:
I'm sorry, where was this recent competition where Michelle completed 5 triples? What's that? Oh, Michelle only said she has her triples back.

Well, that's all the proof I need. Heck, they should just give her the gold medal, if she says her skating is at that level.

Okay, there wasn't a competition. Fine. So where was the video footage of Michelle at the rink completing 5 triples? There isn't any?

I'm sure Meissner, etc. can occasionally complete each of the 5 triples if she keeps trying in a pressure-free practice rink. That doesn't mean she can do all 5 consistently in a single program. At a competition.

But hey, if Michelle says she can do all this, that's just peachy. It means she can forever keep up the illusion for her worshippers that she could just sweep in and get a gold any old time she wants, and never actually prove anything on the ice.

It's a bit like how Queen Elizabeth I's portrait painters always painted their subject as 16ish and young, no matter how old and haggard she grew in real life.

Yeah right - evil one that she is.

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