Ladies SP

HCOSurfer · Mar 25, 2009

Ladies SP - Staring Orders

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Clara PETERS
IRL
2 Sonja MUGOSA
MNE
3 Merovee EPHREM
MON
4 Beatrice ROZINSKAITE
LTU
5 Bianka PADAR
HUN
Warm-Up Group 2
6 Yoniko Eva WASHINGTON
IND
7 Emma HAGIEVA
AZE
8 Stacy PERFETTI
BRA
9 Ksenia JASTSENJSKI
SRB
10 Maria PAPASOTIRIOU
GRE
Warm-Up Group 3
11 Zanna PUGACA
LAT
12 Lejeanne MARAIS
RSA
13 Gracielle Jeanne TAN
PHI
14 Roxana LUCA
ROU
15 Charissa TANSOMBOON
THA
Warm-Up Group 4
16 Teodora POSTIC
SLO
17 Tamami ONO
HKG
18 Mirna LIBRIC
CRO
19 Victoria MUNIZ
PUR
20 Ana Cecilia CANTU
MEX
21 Anna JURKIEWICZ
POL
Warm-Up Group 5
22 Chaochih LIU
TPE
23 Yan LIU
CHN
24 Cheltzie LEE
AUS
25 Sonia RADEVA
BUL
26 Kerstin FRANK
AUT
27 Isabelle PIEMAN
BEL
Warm-Up Group 6
28 Jenna MCCORKELL
GBR
29 Viktoria HELGESSON
SWE
30 Sonia LAFUENTE
ESP
31 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA
UZB
32 Tugba KARADEMIR
TUR
Warm-Up Group 7
33 Cynthia PHANEUF
CAN
34 Nella SIMAOVA
CZE
35 Elena GLEBOVA
EST
36 Candice DIDIER
FRA
37 Tamar KATZ
ISR
Warm-Up Group 8
38 Na-Young KIM
KOR
39 Annette DYTRT
GER
40 Ivana REITMAYEROVA
SVK
41 Alissa CZISNY
USA
42 Irina MOVCHAN
UKR
Warm-Up Group 9
43 Sarah MEIER
SUI
44 Miki ANDO
JPN
45 Fumie SUGURI
JPN
46 Rachael FLATT
USA
47 Joannie ROCHETTE
CAN
48 Susanna PÖYKIÖ
FIN
Warm-Up Group 10
49 Alena LEONOVA
RUS
50 Mao ASADA
JPN
51 Carolina KOSTNER
ITA
52 Yu-Na KIM
KOR
53 Laura LEPISTÖ
FIN
54 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI
GEO

Elene's skating dead last :eek:

Wrlmy · Mar 25, 2009

The final group is all kinds of weird. It's not impossible 30 something points will separate the highest score and the lowest score of the group.

Bruin714 · Mar 25, 2009

Where exactly is the division between the morning and afternoon group? Is is 5 groups in the morning and 5 in the afternoon?

museksk8r · Mar 26, 2009

Bruin714 said:
Where exactly is the division between the morning and afternoon group? Is is 5 groups in the morning and 5 in the afternoon?

Yes, Jenna McCorkell, the 1st to skate in Group 6, will lead off the later groups.

Tinymavy15 · Mar 26, 2009

VERY interesting. not great for the american ladies...and Joannie is not even in the last group. But with judges like these does anything matter?

museksk8r · Mar 26, 2009

Tinymavy15 said:
VERY interesting. not great for the american ladies...and Joannie is not even in the last group. But with judges like these does anything matter?

Remember, Brian and Evan were not in the final group of the Mens' SP either, yet they are currently leading after the SP.

Bruin714 · Mar 26, 2009

Thanks!

pokky_oc · Mar 26, 2009

Well, this is good for some skaters! My prediction after short is...

1. Yu-Na Kim 70.00+
2. Mao Asada 68.00+
3. Joannie Rochette 66.00+

Well, that's what I think after the short... Even though Yu-Na is skating last ( before Elene Gedevanishvili ) as long as she lands her jumps it'll be fine! All Mao needs is to rotate that triple flip + triple loop! Joannie really needs triple + triple here and I know she can land it... If you watch 4CC Warm Up of Joannie you'll see that she landed a clean triple lutz + triple toe! But the actual SP in 4CC was in my opinion was over-rated ( deserved around 62~63 points ) and it's not going to go over 65.00 again without a triple + triple ( Unless you're Mao Asada or Yu-Na Kim, If Mao does an under rotated triple loop in her combination she'll probably get around 65.00 points ) My opinion on the podium is...

1. Yu-Na Kim 195.00+
2. Mao Asada 195.00+
3. Joannie Rochette 180.00+

Well, this amazing rivalry battle will only happen if these top 3 skaters in the world, skate clean! I think Mao will get a 1st place in FS but then it's not enough to beat Kim's total score or something like that!

I'm not saying Mao won't get a gold, because Mao is my favorite skater! If Mao skates clean her FS perfectly her jump base value are worth amazing 52.50! Yu-Na Kim's jump base value is 43.30 but Yu-Na will get huge G.O.E score unlike Mao! Joannie's jumps are worth 42.50 which is nearly as much as Yu-Na's! Basically they all have the chance of getting the gold medal!

Other skaters who has a some chance of getting on the podium are:

Miki Ando ( Perfect skate then maybe a gold again )
Rachael Flatt ( A possibility of bronze )
Alissa Czisny ( If very lucky a bronze )
Fumie Suguri ( A medal maybe?? )
Laura Lepisto ( I don't see her on the podium but just maybe... )
Carolina Kostner ( I think she could with a clean skate )

irinas · Mar 26, 2009

Tinymavy15 said:
VERY interesting. not great for the american ladies...and Joannie is not even in the last group. But with judges like these does anything matter?

The top 12 skaters in the World Ranking always skate in the last two groups. It is not about the skater.

So that's very normal for Joannie. Don't worry. It is all about the draw

Last year Carolina and Mao skated just before the final group. As I said, It depends on the draw.

all_empty · Mar 27, 2009

Been watching Joannie in practice the last few days. She's been practicing 3T+3S+SEQ and 2A+3T. I may have seen one 3F+3T. I think she's going for 3L+2T and solo 3F in the short.

museksk8r · Mar 27, 2009

all_empty said:
Been watching Joannie in practice the last few days. She's been practicing 3T+3S+SEQ and 2A+3T. I may have seen one 3F+3T. I think she's going for 3L+2T and solo 3F in the short.

Thanks for the news! How interesting . . . 2A+3T? A replacement for 2Axel-hop-2Axel perhaps? Then, however, she'd have to leave out her final 3Salchow if she repeats the 3toe after the 3toe+half loop+3Salchow sequence because she has been repeating 3Lutz in the LP. She has also been training 3Lutz+3toe and landed it in the 4CC SP warm-up.

all_empty · Mar 27, 2009

I think the 2A+3T is just for practice. Her 3L and 3S are so solid that those are the triple jumps she'll repeat in the FS.

jiggs · Mar 27, 2009

Clip of Carolina practicing:

http://tv.repubblica.it/copertina/l-allenamento-di-carolina/31068?video

turtle · Mar 27, 2009

Here is an article talking about Joannie flying under the radar.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/Sports/OtherSports/2009/03/27/8902206-sun.html. Will she be able to repeat what Evan did in men's competitions?

PolymerBob · Mar 27, 2009

Just a couple of hours to go. I wish I was home so I could watch it. :clap:

DarkestMoon · Mar 27, 2009

all_empty said:
I think the 2A+3T is just for practice. Her 3L and 3S are so solid that those are the triple jumps she'll repeat in the FS.

I know she reworked her footwork to be more fluid. However, I think a 2A+3T would score better than an 2A sequence. The sequence is more of a hit or a miss type of thing for Joannie. At least we know Joannie can and has done a Toe-half-Sal seq. well. The 2A+3T can rack up more points, especially at the last half of her program with that lovely transition going into it (Sasha-esque curl into the 2A sequence).

If there is a worry about underrotation, Joannie could do a 2A+2L+2L to bypass the Zayak rule.

museksk8r · Mar 27, 2009

DarkestMoon said:
If there is a worry about underrotation, Joannie could do a 2A+2L+2L to bypass the Zayak rule.

She is only allowed one 3-jump combo and already does 3Lutz+2toe+2loop right off the top of her program. It would have to be 2Axel+2loop. I do think it's wiser for Joannie to repeat the 3Salchow instead of the 3toe, as the Sal is worth more in points and it's such a strong jump for Rochette.

Back to the thread at hand, the Ladies' SP. Don't want to turn this into a practice report thread since we already have those in this forum.

A.H.Black · Mar 27, 2009

5 minutes to go. Get something to eat and take your potty break now.

museksk8r · Mar 27, 2009

A.H.Black said:
5 minutes to go. Get something to eat and take your potty break now.

Get your fresh coffee . . . you know, this week has been so rough on my sleep schedule. I have been far too excited to finally have skating to watch on television that I'm totally sleep deprived. What the heck, it's all worth it! I can catch up on sleep come Sunday.

antmanb · Mar 27, 2009

turtle said:
Here is an article talking about Joannie flying under the radar.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/Sports/OtherSports/2009/03/27/8902206-sun.html. Will she be able to repeat what Evan did in men's competitions?

Are they purposefully trying to put off the skaters by playing Celine Dion during their practices? :eek:

Ant

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