03-29-2009, 11:25 AM
I'm so happy for Rachael. 5th in her first worlds is so remarkable. I loved that FS, I hope the gets something that fits her as well as that next year. You could see the improvements in her skating. Shame on the final spin and the combo. Keep up the good work!
03-29-2009, 11:43 AM
Lepisto does have a lovely, lovely quality to her skating but the tech isn't there. And again I found Leonova underwhelming, as well, but she does have more tech (speaking because several have compared Lep and Leo).
Button said he thinks Joannie is very, very good but still doesn't understand herself just HOW good she is. I agree. Joannie has that mature, polished, finished look but even now with the great season she's had I don't think she truly understands just how great her skating is. She can put out COP-friendly programs that still look and feel like finished programs with an integrated artistic concept -- a rarity. And hopefully she'll continue to grow in her belief in herself!
Kim was wonderful and I really enjoy watching her and think of myself as a fan. But despite the record-breaking score I'm not sure I'd call her THE best ever -- but certainly among the best! But I'm so, so happy she had a great Worlds and IS NOT INJURED. Credit to Orser for his coaching skills and his apparent ability to really tailor her season to what she needs as a skater and athlete.
Asada: never have "gotten" her and still don't. Know she has legions of supporters and I'm sure she'll come back strong.
Kostner: Poor woman. But even though the jumps deserted her she finished the program and even mustered a small smile. What a meltdown, though. It looked like even with the one jump she landed, her free leg touched down as she swung around. But I really felt for her. On the plus side, she's looking lovelier and more "put together" and polished with every season, I think. I'm sure she'll be back strong also.
03-29-2009, 11:58 AM
So sad, the look on Kostner's face when she finished her program, it was anguish. She is so classy though, she pulled herself together and acknowledged the crowd. I really feel for her. Should she maybe change coaches? I'm not sure Huth is giving her the mental preparation she needs.
03-29-2009, 12:14 PM
I don't agree with you
I don't agree with you. Of course, I don't want to compare yu-na with michelle. Each one of them have skating attraction.
Originally Posted by PROKOFIEV
Yu-na's jump quality is very good include edge jumps. Didn't you see her axel and salchow? Even if Yu-na popped triple salchow at LP but she have done good sal consistently at this season.
And she got a 1.6 goe at 2a(as you know, It is a edge jump) in her LP.
Last edited by salt03; 03-29-2009 at 12:17 PM.
03-29-2009, 12:19 PM
Lost my connection to this site just after Carolina skated. Iam so pleased for Joannie , not perfect but she was solid enough and one thing i did notice right after Mao skated as well as the other women, Joannie has alot of power but still have alot of artistry to her skating, attention for detail and a relaxed flowing quality to her skating.I do love Mao too though. Yu na you cannot deny deserved 1st place, lovely skater though i to cannot say yet she is the best ever as i still think she can grow artistically.Miki i had a feeling she would be good, she shows real determination and what power. I suppose however i felt as good as she was i felt her program was a bit hurried. I do appreciate Rachel is improving and her PCS really are ahead of the russian girl but still find her to be a bit overmarked. She just does not have quite the same level of basic skating as skaters like Laura,and Fumie. Great skate for her though. Would have hoped Cynthia was been a bit better but its still 2 women for Canada isn't it for Olympics? Carolina while not one of my true favourites i cannot help but feel sorry for her during her freeskate. She has great basic skating and just couldn't feel the ice at all. Still glad i stayed awake to watch without having to wait and know the results already. When was the last time a Canada woman medalled? was it not 88?
03-29-2009, 12:42 PM
Ok now I've seen all.
I don't think Rochette was better than Asada.
Leonova was new name for the future.
Seems I'm the only one that didn't like Yu-Na performance. Steps were awkward and she look really angry when she skates. Where is the display of feelings in her face and her motions.
I was surprised and pleased Miki was so good. Miki deserves second but Asada should have gotten third.
03-29-2009, 12:45 PM
Some of Asada's jumps were clearly underrotated and fairly obvious as well. This is a mistake than can be hard to see which can make it difficult for the casual viewer (not trying to imply that you are!) to understand the lower marks. I'm not an Asada fan, but thought there was something missing from her performances. It seemed like Asada the skater was there but Asada the performer wasn't.
Originally Posted by Norpido
03-29-2009, 12:55 PM
Yea apparently she got lower marks but I mean I think Asada's performance as whole more appealing to me than Rochette's. This system is almost rooting for robotic like element performance. That's the difference with Asada and Yu-Na. Ah well I guess some will call Asada robotic too. But IMO Asada more softer and elegant.
03-29-2009, 12:59 PM
Actually, it's more PCS where Asada lost. I'm quite sure she would have gotten higher marks if she'd skated later in a group.
Originally Posted by skatingbc
But maybe it's just me...I really like Mao's Masquerade, whereas most of people seem to dislike it a lot.
03-29-2009, 01:00 PM
Originally Posted by norpido
03-29-2009, 01:05 PM
I'll try defying gravity, you can't pull me down
Yuna's last spin did not count, does anybody know why?
03-29-2009, 01:13 PM
I don't think so. I felt like the spark wasn't there. She looked a bit tight and nervous to me. But again, not a Mao fan. Never have been, I doubt I ever will be. I see more personality and passion coming from Miss Kim.
Originally Posted by kasia16
03-29-2009, 01:17 PM
Since 2007 Miki, Mao and Kim. Things have shifted from USA to Asia since Kimmie Meissner.
I actually thought Kimmie would be a gold contender for many years to come in 2006. Also miss Sasha Cohen.
03-29-2009, 01:19 PM
L'art pour l'art
Kim is of course the deserved winner. But I don't know what the judges are getting at with those huge PCS scores. There was a very obvious mistake in that program, but the PCS she got were like "6.0" in presentation. And the next time she doesn't get those huge scores she got for PCS in the long program - she will give a nasty interview that she doesn't understand why they gave her so much at worlds and less this time? It's what happened with Chan, and after thinking about it for a few days - the question is what were the judges thinking, giving him about 80 the entire season, except for the sudden 89 at 4CC?
I don't get Asada's very low PCS. Her mistake was a bit more obvious, but in the end she and Kim landed about the same: Asada a 3A, two 3F, a 3T and a 3R. Kim landed a 3F, two 3Lz and two 3T. Plus Asada has better spins and better extension, that should count for something.
Rochette was lucky to be placed above Miki, but it was the short program - so I guess it can happen. But she was tentative and her jumps didn't have the usual quality.
Miki Ando, the skate of the night! Too bad about the downgrade on the Triple Loop, otherwise the silver would have been hers for sure. I am happy that she got a standing ovations, what a way to get back into the Top Three! She must have visited a spin doctor, I mean, nothing shaky about the spins this time, nice positions - what an improvement. Spiral sequence still mediocre though, I guess she probably begs the PTB every day that they will make the spiral sequence optional (so that ladies could do a second step sequence). And she is the most beautiful lady out there. I think I am going to make my first ladies' banner ever!
Lepistö was gifted, if you have only 3 consistent Triples, please land them all. But she never does it. Landed the Lutz though, which is kind of ironic. Incredible skating quality though, amazing posture - she looks as if she is always aware of every fiber of her body.
No hidden Czechs this time, only hidden Italians. But I think it was actually worse than Verner last year.
Leonova! Great make-over, she looks lovely. In the end it was the least enthusiastic skate she has had this season, but it was still charming and technically solid. I guess she and her coach were a bit overwhelmed by her success this season themselves. So I hope she goes home, works a bit on polishing the elements, improving the spins. Has a few talks with Slutskaya. She might even want to consider a 3-3, the 3F looks very solid for her and she has good flow out of it.
Incredible happy for Elene, what an improvement! Missing the long program at Euros just 2 months ago, now Top Ten at Worlds. I love her skating, so much personality, great spins... Also happy for Sarah, even saving 2 spots for Switzerland after all those injuries.
One last thing, both Kim and Flatt didn't have their last spin counted. Also too many revolutions on another spin at some point, or is there another reason?
03-29-2009, 01:20 PM
Agree I think Mao was nervous too. But I give her credit for yet again follow through in a big way after a fall like she did 2008.
Originally Posted by skatingbc
Seriously I see no passion in Kim. And Im Korean myself.