Now that you've brought it up, I've only just realised she wears a red dress for all her World Championships LPs. Mao does look gorgeous in red though. Especially the dark maroon shade!Originally Posted by coconutpunch
As for the dress...Mao does have a tend to change them near the end of the season (especially into something RED).
Okami, thank you for the information about Miki - I agree with your opinion on the quad, but, then, this jump seems to be her dream, and she actually got it done in practice. I'm also glad that Mao had a great performance here - good for her that she can go to the Olympic season with a comfortable feeling!The commentators said that Miki fell hard in the practice and her shoulder started to give her trouble again. Nikolai Morozov told her not to attempt the quad in the LP, but she didn't want to disappoint her fans and went for it anyway. The hard fall made it worse. :(
There was no information whether it's really serious - I guess we'll see in the Gala. I hope Miki's fine.I agree that she should give the quad up for now - it looks great in the practices, but she doesn't need it (3-3T combo would work better for her) and the falls just ruin her condition. She looked so fine at Worlds and in the SP; she could have easily placed 2nd if only she stuck to the jump layout from Worlds.
Mao was great! It was great to watch her performance with Tatiana's commentary (it's available at Mao's fan forum). In spite of still struggling with jumps she really pulled it together. TAT sounded really happy - and she blamed herself for Mao's poor showing at Worlds, saying that she didn't give Mao enought time to acclimatize. And both the Russian commentators had a good laugh at Nobu's "wow" expression when Mao landed her axels.
Have you seen the one of Sasha's Dark Eyes where she lands and smashes through the ice? Funny video editing but really, come on now.At least the Kwaniacs didn't resort to stuff like this. Although there was that compliation of 35 Cohen mistakes(I don't know if the maker of that was an MK fanatic though)
People like this clearly turn me away from these skaters. Not that I liked them much in the first place, anyway. That's not to take away from their great talent though.
Red Dog, Michelle skated at a time when things like underrotations etc didn't matter. One hill of beans. I have no doubt that if things were important in Michelle's day that videos about Tara's underrotations and flutzs would be all over the internet. And Tara fans would have videos of Michelle. Etc.Originally Posted by Red Dog
At least the Kwaniacs didn't resort to stuff like this. Although there was that compliation of 35 Cohen mistakes (I don't know if the maker of that was an MK fanatic though)
No, they only resorted to name calling and made Tara Lipinski the 2nd most villainess female skater in the history of the sport. The first being Tonya Harding of course.
Seriously, I don't think I've ever felt more pity for a skater than I have for Tara. Monkey face, chipmunk, piece of garbage, Satan, death (for real, I've heard people call her Death)... the list goes on.
And bekalc makes a good point as well. If the penalizations were the same back then, Tara slow-motion videos would be the highest viewed on Youtube.
Oh yeah, I remember thatI don't care- even if you're her biggest fan, you gotta admit... that was funny. (and very well done, too)
Red Dog, Michelle skated at a time when things like underrotations etc didn't matter. One hill of beans. I have no doubt that if things were important in Michelle's day that videos about Tara's underrotations and flutzs would be all over the internet. And Tara fans would have videos of Michelle. Etc.You know what, that's a good point. The resources didn't exist back then.No, they only resorted to name calling and made Tara Lipinski the 2nd most villainess female skater in the history of the sport. The first being Tonya Harding of course.
Seriously, I don't think I've ever felt more pity for a skater than I have for Tara. Monkey face, chipmunk, piece of garbage, Satan, death (for real, I've heard people call her Death)... the list goes on.
I never understood why Lipinski got so much grief from the fans. Tonya I can understand, of course, but Tara didn't do anything even close to that magnitude.
Sarah Hughes wasn't immune, either. I distinctly remember some fans calling her fat, etc. while she was touring on SOI back in '05. Then again, there were also rumors that she wasn't a nice person (I don't know how true those are). I don't think this can be blamed entirely on Kwaniacs, though.
These Yu Na people are seriously annoying me to no end, though. I mean, get real. SHE'S NOT EVEN COMPETING HERE!!! Seems to me as if they suddenly feel threatened now that Asada has joined Kim in the 200+ group, and are out to take Asada down however they can. Kind of comical that they're choosing to pick apart her 3A rather than other things that I won't name (don't want to give them ideas!!)
At least once Kim retires, hopefully the bots follow.
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Well, it cuts both ways. Did you ever visit TaraWorld back in the day? It was the only skating fan site where you could read posts like, "Kill the Gook."
Ugh. Way to go - demonstrate your ignorance, prejudice, and offend Chinese and Koreans all in one go.
To be frank, Tara always annoyed the heck out of me, and it had nothing to do with her beating MK in 1998. If Chen Lu had beaten Michelle with a good skate, for example, I'd have been fine with it, and I understood completely when Sarah beat Michelle in 2002 because Sarah had clearly outskated her. I was always turned off by Tara because she seemed bratty off-ice and on - I could never stand that childish, "I'll skate to Anne of Green Gables music" princessy style in skaters. It's fine when you can be a graceful and elegant princess like Zhang and Cohen who are capable of exquisite spins and spirals, but Tara had none of that, and the jumps she did do were executed with poor technique and were miniscule enough to rival Yamaguchi's.
Thank you.
maybe not to the judges... but the fans whined about it a lot... when the skater kicked their favorite's butt anyway... Sarah and Tara got hit hard on the boards (including GS) with their flutzing and underrotation and poor technique all around. the 6.0 system wasn't immune to bickering.
Amen. Thank you.
While I'm sure a lot of effort was put into making those "analysis videos", the makers of those videos always struck me as people that knew nothing about skating and have recently become obsessed with the rise of Yuna Kim. They simply have no respect for figure skating the sport, which has had a long and proud history way before their heroine ever even came along.
If Yu Na stays in long enough, she might help many of her own fans grow to like other skaters. Similar to what Kwan did here in NA.
I came along in 2002 (after SLC) and this was a time where there were ENTIRE messageboards dedicated to ranting and bashing other skaters. A time when ezboard reigned supreme in the online skating world (and GS itself was an ezboard as wellWell, it cuts both ways. Did you ever visit TaraWorld back in the day? It was the only skating fan site where you could read posts like, "Kill the Gook."
In fact, the past two seasons were the most at-ease I've ever seen GS and other boards...all the skaters who seemed to really divide fans left (Kwan, Cohen, S. Hughes, Slute, etc.). This season some of that bickering seems to have re-surfaced in the form of you-know-what.
And you even see remnants of this in Cohen's comeback thread...although when I joined, the majority of active posters did not like her- now it just reallly blows my mind how many people defend her now. Comments that would have gotten "ITA" or "Well said" in 2003 now get "go away, you're delusional" in 2009.
Although, in fairness, it should be mentioned that Ihatemichellekwan.com had only four members.
Edited to add: Not to be confused with the ever popular Ihatemichellekwan.blogspot.com.
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MM, I'm referring to general websites where "anything went". For example, Free Skate World had a "free speech" subforum, and at Pain In The Ice you could freely bash both fellow posters and skaters. Membership at both forums was in the hundreds. They served their purpose though- you could vent and express yourself without any barriers. There were others, but at a lot of them you had these girls going crazy over some of the male competitors and it drove me insane.
Last edited by R.D.; 04-20-2009 at 11:59 AM.
On a side note, back in the very early days of the internet – we’re talking ’95 or ’96 here, there was this joke that explained just what it was. As best I can recall, it went something like ............
The internet is a place where gay men - who pretend to women - can converse for hours upon hours ............
................ with lesbians who pretend to be men !!
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