Yeah let me slam you in the eye and see how well you can lift something while you are blacking out. Good job.
Originally Posted by npa
Gadfly and Bon Vivant
I've always found this pair scary because of some basic (lack of proper) technique issues. If I see a thread title "pairs accident" I would automatically think of them.
Also, apparently there are interpersonal trust issues as well (short hearsay version: they were a couple, split, she started dating a mutal friend and he reacted badly).
poor technique + lack of trust = disaster waiting to happen
I think they should call it a day and find new partners (and he needs to strenghthen up somewhat and they both need work on basic pairs technique).
Loving pairs, dance and figure skating
^ If there really is a rift, maybe they should split up. But if they want to compete in Vancouver, I doubt that is an option for now.
Did anyone see a video of the accident? The news reports all say she fell while they were doing a triple twist during the Gala, but don't they usually perform a triple twist for competitions and only a double twist for exhibitions?
Wicked Yankee Girl
Yes, I saw it. It was quite eerie. The arena was very dark, and they were skating to some song which starts out, "When you try your best, but you don't succeed" The twist was the first real trick in the program. It was either a severely over rotated double or a severely underrotated triple.
Pairs skating is not an activity that tolerates lapses in concentration or inattention to detail. I hope they will think twice before deciding on their future.
I think everyone is jumping to conclusions about this team saying they lack trust, concentration, and that they should switch partners. There is no way with Vancouver coming up that they are suddenly going to decide they do not trust each other and stop skating.
Yes it was a bad fall...I believe it was partly from the spotlight as they do not usually do a twist in their exhibition programs. They have received counselling in the past after their other accident and if they can come back from that and win a World Bronze medal the very next year I don't think anyone should be questioning their strength or trust in each other.
Is there a video of this? I'm having a hard time imagining how it happened.
Originally Posted by dorispulaski
There has been a major change in their personal relationship since their "other accident" and their World bronze. Their on-ice "chemistry", perhaps their greatest asset, hasn't been in evidence this season and that was reflected in their results.
Originally Posted by i love to skate
Their personal issues are a distraction and may contribute to an eroded sense of trust between them, and that can lead to accidents. That is not to suggest that they should break up, but they do need to find a way to establish a different type of relationship that will work FOR them, not against them. Easier said than done, perhaps, but not impossible. Other pairs who were in relationships, broke up but went on to great success have done it: Steuer/Woetzel, Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze, Bechke/Petrov, to name just a few.
Off the ice
There is a video, at least for the time being. It didn't look as bad as I thought it would (though obviously scary) because she seemed to fall on him first rather than straight onto the ice.*
Originally Posted by dwiggin3
I hope Jessica and Bryce can get past this and regain their on-ice chemistry.
* ETA: after looking at it again, I think I was wrong, she did fall right to the ice, and hit it pretty hard. The camera angle makes it hard to tell. It doesn't look as bad as the 2007 accident, though.
Last edited by Buttercup; 04-20-2009 at 03:02 PM.
Beliver in Sasha's Perfect Program
I agree. Like Sale and Pellitier you could tell when they were having a good day with thier realtionship and when they were not. I never knew anything about thier personal lives, but if what you say is true, it coudl explain how wooden they have looked towards eachother this past year. I i think that thier problem lie in messing up element, but chemistry. the chinese have won world titles/medals without any cheamisty whatsover. If they get the triples down and try the 3 twist in competition they could greatly improvet thier world standing.
Originally Posted by Mafke
I think their lack of chemistry has been partly due to their long program this year which did not play to their strengths. It was also reported that they had worked on their personal relationship right before Canadians and they had a really wonderful skate there. If you watch their 4CC exhibition you can see their chemistry emerge. It's not as if they are ignoring things they need to work on, and a relationship can't be changed over night. I really do not think this fall has anything to do with their relationship nor will it hamper it in the future.
Originally Posted by chuckm
The Zamboni Rocks!!!
I am just so nosey but who's the mutual friend? Someone told me that she was dating Scott Moir!!
Originally Posted by Mafke
Moving up the testing structure
She still is, I believe Since last season, if I'm not mistaken. That being said, I hope Jessica and Bryce can fully recover from this, because when they're "on", they're great to watch, and the battle for the 2 Olympics spots in pairs next year will hopefully make our top 3 pairs that much better...
Originally Posted by sillylionlove
PS totally superficial comment, but Jessica looks gorgeous with her hair down! She should do that more often... although loose hair is probably not great for competition.
Last edited by Kypma; 04-20-2009 at 04:42 PM.
Reason: adding the PS part :)
What, really? I think Tessa and Scott would be great together.
Originally Posted by Kypma