Here's what Sonia had to say after the world championships:
Here's what Sonia had to say after the world championships:
Well, when it comes to the skating, it's mostly the same thing she always writes, with opinions stated as facts and claims about scandalous judging. Of course there were some iffy judging decisions, but not marking her favorites highest is not, IMO, a scandal. But at least she had some nice things to say about certain skaters, and like Sonia I was very sad for Carolina. There! We agree on something!
Actually, I mostly agree with her take on the qualifying, and she's right, the problem is mostly political.
OT, Nathacha, when and where did you meet Brian?
Last edited by Buttercup; 04-20-2009 at 01:00 PM.
It was Christmas for me!!!
Coming back to Sonia's article, most of it is as usual, about how scandalous she thinks the judging is, although I do agree with most of what she says. I think it just goes to show that it's not because the 6.0. system is gone that the scandal is too.
She has a point when she says that Patrick and Yu-Na are the exceptions not the rule; figure skating is losing it's magic.
What I find interesting is what she says on Cinquanta'q support from small countries. I'm curious to know what the more important federations think of him.
That's one of the places where I thought her argument didn't work, because which skaters we like, or find magical, is totally subjective. I think Yu-Na Kim is marvelous, and I believe she would have succeeded regardless of the system. Patrick Chan, on the other hand, does nothing for me. Of course he skates well, but it's all so designed to maximize points that to me it's more a checklist than an interesting whole, and there's no wow factor - it just leaves me cold. But someone like Tomas Verner, who wasn't even mentioned by her, is amazing when he's on, IMO (admittedly this doesn't happen very often ). Of course, some people will say that Chan is fabulous and deserves every mark he gets, while Yu-Na and Tomas are overrated.She has a point when she says that Patrick and Yu-Na are the exceptions not the rule; figure skating is losing it's magic.
So obviously this is not objective, and that's the problem with using specific skaters for an argument that's very broad. Also, were there that many skaters blending grace and passion under any system skating has been judged under? I don't think there were - it's just that looking back, we tend to remember the good and the bad but not the mediocre.
She didn't mention the pairs event at all. I wonder if she watched any of it; there were some lovely programs skated in LA.
I've actually heard that before - that Speedy gets his support from the smaller players. So he must be really fed up with the huge fields at Worlds to even bring it up.What I find interesting is what she says on Cinquanta'q support from small countries. I'm curious to know what the more important federations think of him.
Always thoughtful opinions some of which I agree with. Those i do not agree with, keep me attentive for the next bout of competitions.
When exactly is a new President of the ISU to be voted on? Small countries do have a voice here, and Bebe Liang, Alyssa Cizney, Yukari Nankano, Akiko Suzuki, do not have a voice. Those Ladies must earn their place in their Federations. Not easy.
Too much has been said about the palsy walsy twosome of Cinquanta and Piseev. It's more like the Asian 'stans' look to Moscow on how to vote. JMO.
A better question would be: Why not hold a Round Robin type of Competition like Tennis? Not feasible? Why not?
I think a Round Robin types of Comp would get more media attention and the quarters, semis and the two for the win would sell more tickets.
Can you imagine Kim v. Asada in one semi, the winner of which would face Caroline Zhang who won the other semi. This would not sell???
The last few times, Cinquanta was elected by acclaimation without opposition. I doubt if anyone will be running against him this time round either.
Actually, I would say that David Dore -- the long time president of the Canadian federation -- is Cinquanta's right-hnad man. Dore is the ISU vice president for figure skating and was the primary architect of the CoP.Too much has been said about the palsy walsy twosome of Cinquanta and Piseev.
I think it's a money issue. As Mrs. Bianchetti says, with so many competitors at Worlds they are having trouble finding any country that can afford to host it.Originally Posted by Buttercup
Cinquanta's background -- before he became president of the ISU -- was in accounting. His major claims to fame are in the financial arena. Back in the day he negotiated twenty million dollar television contracts, began offering substantial cash prizes to skaters, and initiated money-makers like the pro-am competitions that knocked out professional skating.
Now that the money is gone (except for Japan), Cinquanta's business suit is starting to show a little wear.
I did attend Worlds, but skipped the first half of both men's and ladies' short program. I came to Worlds to see the best skaters in the world, which did not happen. We got instead the "best" from each country, many skating at a very low level. So I very much hope the field is reduced with qualifying of some sort.
The limitations on the number of skaters from each country is so silly. The top ranked skaters should be there. Nationalities are less important in the global internet-connected world, with skaters training outside their own countries with coaches who don't even speak their language, and changing citizenships willy-nilly to accommodate their skating ambitions.
I used to like her writing. Now I am a bit of tired of it. To search for the reason why I am a little tired of her arguement about the actual competitions, I found that it's because I don't agree with her. I realized that she is just one of the opinions that have a large amount of reader bases, like Hersh. The difference is that more people do not agree with Hersh. Well, I am actually frustrated with all those Chan hypes.