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What music should Caroline Zhang skate to next season?

Binthere

On the Ice
Joined
Jul 28, 2008
Hmm... and the sections she used from Sense and Sensibility were nice too. But probably not a great idea to set up a "comparison"
 

Andalusia

Final Flight
Joined
Oct 7, 2007
I maybe alone on this one but I think Tara Lipinski's 98 SP (Anastasia) and LP (Rainbow) would fit Caroline Zhang perfectly :laugh:

For goodness' sakes, please no. :p

Anitra's Dance would do wonderfully. I still have to listen to the other suggestions...

...and come up with some of my own. :biggrin:
 

ANW

On the Ice
Joined
Nov 8, 2007
I know people will say "Caroline and Tara, no way!!!" But I always think there is something in Caroline reminding me of Tara, I remember two years ago I was watching SA on tv, at some moments Caroline was so reminiscent of Tara, especially when she smiles. I wish I could find some pictures.
For goodness' sakes, please no. :p

Anitra's Dance would do wonderfully. I still have to listen to the other suggestions...

...and come up with some of my own. :biggrin:
 

Tinymavy15

Sinnerman for the win
Record Breaker
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Dec 28, 2006
The Gadfly suite is very good for her.
I would love to see her skate to choplin if she can bring some emotion to her face.
 

feraina

Record Breaker
Joined
Mar 3, 2007
What about Lark Ascending? I just went to a Vaughen Wiliams concert tonight, including Lark Ascending. It's such beautiful music. I know Yu-na did it a couple of years ago (and it remains my favorite of Yu-na's programs), but it will be three seasons by next year. I think Caroline would bring a very different look to Lark Ascending than Yu-na, and the music really suits her. Skaters have common music choices all the time, like Giselle last year, so three years apart shouldn't be a big deal.
 

feraina

Record Breaker
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Mar 3, 2007

Oh, nice suggestion. Similar to Lark Ascending. But I like this version better (really cute cartoon):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1v0xvODU7E
I think maybe Lark Ascending is a little prettier, but also a little more challenging to skate to, though of course Caroline wouldn't have to choose the same selection or the same choreography as Yu-na (who said she found the choreography a little too hard).

I'm still listening to the other suggestions. It would be nice if everyone can post a specific link for his/her suggestions, and also point out exactly which song(s) in an album. ;) I'm feeling overwhelmed!
 

Andalusia

Final Flight
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Oct 7, 2007
What about Lark Ascending? I just went to a Vaughen Wiliams concert tonight, including Lark Ascending. It's such beautiful music. I know Yu-na did it a couple of years ago (and it remains my favorite of Yu-na's programs), but it will be three seasons by next year. I think Caroline would bring a very different look to Lark Ascending than Yu-na, and the music really suits her. Skaters have common music choices all the time, like Giselle last year, so three years apart shouldn't be a big deal.

I went to hear The Lark Ascending in concert, too, and I was just about enraptured when the lead violinist started playing. It's really the most beautiful piece of music, with different shades and tones to it. The cool thing about this piece is that it's so quintessentially English (as was the composer), but certain sections sound almost like East Asian music. I'd love for Caroline to skate to it, but I feel it's too closely linked to Yu-Na (and indeed she sampled practically all of the major movements), and Caroline would suffer in comparison. Yu-Na really did such a sublime job with it (I wish she had skated it completely clean at least once) - I still feel it's her best choreographed LP ever.
 

LeCygne

Final Flight
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Jan 21, 2009
I'd love for Caroline to skate to it, but I feel it's too closely linked to Yu-Na (and indeed she sampled practically all of the major movements), and Caroline would suffer in comparison. Yu-Na really did such a sublime job with it (I wish she had skated it completely clean at least once) - I still feel it's her best choreographed LP ever.

I agree. It is a beautiful piece of music that Caroline could do a great job with, but at the moment The Lark Ascending still feels like it belongs to Yu-Na. It would be different if it was a more widely used piece, but as far as I know, Yu-Na's the only one who's done it and 3 years doesn't seem like that much time especially with the fantastic job Yu-Na did with it.
 

bekalc

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Nov 1, 2006
I agree. It is a beautiful piece of music that Caroline could do a great job with, but at the moment The Lark Ascending still feels like it belongs to Yu-Na. It would be different if it was a more widely used piece, but as far as I know, Yu-Na's the only one who's done it and 3 years doesn't seem like that much time especially with the fantastic job Yu-Na did with it.

Angela N did it, but that's it. But I have to agree that at this point Caroline may not want the comparisions made. However "if" Yu-na retires than she could use it.

If Zhang could get more speed, something like Canon in D for a short might be good for her. Although I'm hoping that Kostner will go back to that.

I think Zhang just needs to find music that she connects to. But hopefully something with some highs and lows.
 

feraina

Record Breaker
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Mar 3, 2007
and Caroline would suffer in comparison. Yu-Na really did such a sublime job with it (I wish she had skated it completely clean at least once).

Yeah, that's my worry, too...

But, Yu-na did skate it clean at GPF! Well, "clean" by the old COP standards. I think one of her lutz and flip (or were they two lutzes?) were both under-rotated, and I couldn't really tell the flip/lutz apart. But, let's not get sidetracked by this discussion... In the old days, it wasn't huge deal, and the crowd sure didn't care. And the performance was sublime indeed.
 

feraina

Record Breaker
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Mar 3, 2007
Okay, I think I've got it. The Barber violin concerto is a very lyrical 20th century composition that could very well suit Caroline's needs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCj8Gg4h1Wk&feature=related

Oh, I do like it. The climax at 5:40 is perfect for spirals, indeed. It would take some talented editing to put it all together, though. It's funny, I started chatting with a girl on the bus last night after the concert, and she told me she was a violinist studying at the SF Conservatory. I asked her what her favorite composers were, she told me for playing the violin, she really loves Barber's violin concerto and Tchaikovsky's violin concert. ;) So there, I had two high recommendations for the same two pieces in the same day. LeCygne, you weren't the girl I met on the bus last night were you? That would be too funny!

And I like Tchaikovsky's violin concerto as well. I like the violin melodic theme that starts at 1:10 in this video, doesn't last long, though. And again, a pretty snippet at 3:15. And the orchestral recap starting at 9:00 is wonderful for the final set of spins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJItGkrUbE&feature=related

Andalusia, you didn't go to the Vaughen Williams concert in SF, did you?

But someone mentioned Firebird, and I found this version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGkRQgk0s5U
I am not sure that Caroline can carry off the very powerful finale, but it is breathtaking music indeed.

I like the Gadfly suite (Romance) very much. I like the contrast between the gentle solo beginning, and the more dramatic orchestra parts, and it closes on a gentle violin note.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDxZ0c3tujI&feature=related

The David Foster pieces are both very pretty, but maybe a little too gentle. I like the Last Mohigan, though maybe not that version, it's a little repetitive, reminds me of Mao's LP this year (though not as bad).

I liked Caroline's Les Miserables exhibition this year very much. I found it in instrumental format:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQlEGrpKwRM&feature=related
not as nice as the original, though...

Anastasia might be good for Caroline, too. In Tara's selection, the first half is lyrical (which Caroline can do better than Tara, I think), and the second half is bubbly (Tara does it well, but I think Caroline should avoid this section):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvQbNCgtT84
Rainbow also has lyrical and dramatic parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZhIs6OIJ-I
Again, I think if Caroline wants to use it, she has to choose a different selection. She's not energetic and bubbly like Tara at all.
Tara was an immensely talented skater, at such a precocious age; that is undeniable even (especially?) looking back after all these years.
I think Caroline and Tara share their determination and competitive spirit (and mental toughness), but not their skating styles or on-ice personalities.

I like all this music! Thanks for all your wonderful suggestions. :)
 

LeCygne

Final Flight
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Jan 21, 2009
Oh, I do like it. The climax at 5:40 is perfect for spirals, indeed. It would take some talented editing to put it all together, though. It's funny, I started chatting with a girl on the bus last night after the concert, and she told me she was a violinist studying at the SF Conservatory. I asked her what her favorite composers were, she told me for playing the violin, she really loves Barber's violin concerto and Tchaikovsky's violin concert. ;) So there, I had two high recommendations for the same two pieces in the same day. LeCygne, you weren't the girl I met on the bus last night were you? That would be too funny!

And I like Tchaikovsky's violin concerto as well. I like the violin melodic theme that starts at 1:10 in this video, doesn't last long, though. And again, a pretty snippet at 3:15. And the orchestral recap starting at 9:00 is wonderful for the final set of spins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJItGkrUbE&feature=related

:laugh: What a coincidence. I am a violinist as well, but I live on the other side of the country. My favorite violin concerto is Mendelssohn, but that's a bit overused in skating. Anyway, I listened to Tchaikovsky again and I think I like Barber better. Barber's melodies are more.. hauntingly beautiful (is that the right word?) while Tchaikovsky is more generic pretty tunes. Both pieces would require a lot of editing, but Tchaikovsky is freaking 20 minutes long!! Haha well I guess Caroline can decide which she likes.
 

sunrock

Rinkside
Joined
Feb 24, 2009
Songs don't belong to anyone.
There can be some versions considered to be the best of all the versions of one song, but it shouldn't mean that song belongs to the best only.
Lark Ascending would be perfect for Caroline. DO IT ZHANG!
 

mycelticblessing

Final Flight
Joined
Nov 9, 2007
And I like Tchaikovsky's violin concerto as well. I like the violin melodic theme that starts at 1:10 in this video, doesn't last long, though. And again, a pretty snippet at 3:15. And the orchestral recap starting at 9:00 is wonderful for the final set of spins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJItGkrUbE&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy8Ce4NCNns

Takahashi used this two seasons ago. I've never heard the concerto until he first skated to it and I loved it. He skated really well to it and had a great cut of the music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy8Ce4NCNns

I think it would suit Caroline only if she manages to build up more speed as the music is pretty powerful and it may make her appear even slower and more laboured if the speed is not there.
 

christinaskater

Medalist
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Mar 21, 2005
The Phantom of the opera would be a nice musical piece

Aida- O Patria Mia

Ave Maria- Caccini version

Madamme Butterfly

Firebird
 
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