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    The skating fan: biased vs. unbiased

    When I watch a skating event I always want each skater to perform their best, and of course have the judges score accurately and fairly...That being said, I tend to be a "biased" skating fan, wanting my favorites to skate their heart out and win win win. I am a virtual wreck when my favorite is in a competition--pacing the floor, clenching my jaw, etc. It drives me crazy. Of course when the desired outcome occurs the feeling of joy is phenomenal! (I feel like I won the competition!)

    On the flip side, there are competitions when my favorite is not involved and I can simply sit back and enjoy the beauty of figure skating. The passion and intensity isn't as "peaked" but then again neither is the neurosis!! It is nice to have the drama unfold without any preconceived desires...

    Is it more enjoyable to have a few select favorites (and go bonkers) or better to be non-biased and simply enjoy the competition? What type of skating fan are you?

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    I am just a fan of one skater. I do have several favorites, and my passion is picking out a talented teeny bopper or a junior in lower tier levels, and see how they progress.

    Am I biased? Of course, but not to the extent that the best person shouldn't win if it not my favorite. Good skating comes first; Favorites come second.

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    More enjoyable? There's nothing enjoyable about a figure skating competition unless you enjoy tearing your hair out! If my favorite loses, I swear off the sport forever. Who needs the aggravation?

    If my favorite wins, two minutes later I'm biting my nails in anticipation of the next challenge. This sport is a terrible addiction!

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    I find I'm biased in the other extreme... I'm happy so long as certain skaters DON'T get all of the attention and then end up winning. Personally I'm sick of ABC doing the same fluff peices on the same rivalries and skaters during EVERY BROADCAST... do I care what Michelle Kwan has done in the time it's taken her to get off of one plane and on to another... probably not... it's not like the skaters have very much NEW to say on any subject so it gets rather repetative

    however there are other skaters, up and comers and the like, that are totally ignored and unknown... but from all acounts they've probably been just as spectacular in the past... and so when they "upset" the favorite it's somewhat of a shock when in actuality it was just "a matter of time."

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    I prefer it when my favorites skate (I don't have a lot), but I do *like* many skaters. I'm excited about attending SA, where none of my favorites will be. I'll just watch and see if I like the CoP system.

    But yeah, Plush v. Yagudin, I used to go NUTS waiting for the results on those...

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    Interesting question!

    I like to *tell* myself that I'm a completely unbiased fan, that I just admire and appreciate all the high level competitors for the amazing things they are able to accomplish. Then I watch a competition and my emotions tell me loud and clear where my bias lies! Sometimes it really surprises me to find just how much I suddenly want this particular competitor to win! This has happened to me several times with Michelle.

    Surprising, because if I do carry a general bias, it's towards the underdog(s). If I had to pick one American Ladies and one American Mens Competitor as my favorites to "root for" this season they would be Angela Nikodinov and Johnny Weir. (Even though both have made my heart break in the past!) I just love their lyrical qualities, and I guess I respond to the sense of vulnerability that both project.

    Along those lines, I also find that I'm strongly affected by what I perceive (accurate or not) about individual skater's personalities. Case in point -- I attended the LA Nationals and thus witnessed live Sasha Cohen's warm-up shenanigans the night of the Ladies Final. I was so put off by her behavior that I actively rooted against her for the next couple of years (fall, Sasha, fall!) and only recently have come around to appreciating her again.

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    Hey, it wasnt her fault.....The way I looked at it was that it was no ones fault...

    I have favorites. I just happen to have a lot of them. Only one or two are currently elegible though so I seem to only have one or two....that is Sasha and Alexei

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    The skating fan: biased vs. unbiased

    eliza88:

    The worst case scenario is when one has a relative or friend in the competition! My brother used to be an ice dancer. Believe me, the tension is horrific and naturally one is biased. Talk about nail-biting! I used to be on the edge of my seat until the results were posted.

    As for now, I just enjoy the whole competition. Of course, I am cheering for my favorite skater, but as long as the judging is fair and skating is good, I am happy for the outcome.

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    I also want (above all) for there to be good skating and good judging. Everyone has their favourites, but I have a lot of favourites! lol. Most of the time I'm torn as to who I want to see win a competition. I want the best skater/programme/performance to win though, whatever happens, although naturally I hope that performance comes from one of my favourites

    And I also find it hard to say "I want these three skaters to medal" because that means leaving off others, especially if that person has medalled before. Like I'm not really a fan of Tim Goebel's skating, but part of me still wants him to medal, mostly because he's been silver medallist for the last 2 years. I'm always torn! lol
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    ITA Toni. ABC fluff is most annoying for me becasue it eliminates the time period I could be watching someone who is left out of the 'show'.

    I don't believe ABC will stop with the fluff pieces and I agree with you they've done enough with MK but there are others, too, I really don't need any further fluff about them either. However, I wouldn't mind a fluff piece about someone new such as Beatrisa Liang or Johnny Weir.

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    I definitely have my favorites, but except for a few that I find boring and a very few I actively dislike, I like to watch everyone and don’t care who wins as long as it is the correct person. What gets me about people having favorites, is the negative ness they express about that favorites main rival. For example in some peoples eyes Sasha Cohen can’t seem to say anything right. Or other people viewing the awarding the second gold medal at SLC to be Jamie Sale fault (I can only find one statement she made to be at all controversial and quite frankly if I had gone through that there would be more than one statement). David made no inappropriate statements. Both Anton, Elena and their coach all made similar statements yet they aren’t made out to be the pariah of the stating world even by S and P fans

    For sometime I have wondered why this goes on, it's Figure Skating we are discussing not life and death matters after all

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    Re: The skating fan: biased vs. unbiased

    Originally posted by eliza88
    When I watch a skating event I always want each skater to perform their best, and of course have the judges score accurately and fairly...That being said, I tend to be a "biased" skating fan, wanting my favorites to skate their heart out and win win win. I am a virtual wreck when my favorite is in a competition--pacing the floor, clenching my jaw, etc. It drives me crazy. Of course when the desired outcome occurs the feeling of joy is phenomenal! (I feel like I won the competition!)
    How is wanting your favorties to skate and place well a bias? If that's the case then people might as well be indifferent to this sport and not even a fan.
    Biased is when a fan cannot make judgements objectively and fairly, overlooking his favorite's wekanesses and be overly critical to skaters who he dosen't like.
    Last edited by shine; 10-08-2003 at 07:27 PM.

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    I went through agony when Paul Wylie was skating and I vowed never to go through that again with another skater. There are those I like better than others, but generally enjoy almost everyone's performances.......I do however enjoy watching the pairs skating the most, so I guess I have a bias there.....42

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    Well, I am definitely biased ... but I can still admit when someone other than my favorite has skated better ... doesn't mean I like it ... just that I will admit to it!

    I agree with Joe about the fluff pieces ... but I'm sick of all of them ... not just Michelle's. I would much rather be seeing a few more skaters instead.
    This is the sad end result of watching so many skating comps on tape, instead of live. They have all that time to make it into a show, instead of a sporting event! :(

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    Screw the fluff, give me the ENTIRE warm up! It's so interesting to see what all of the skaters are focusing on and how successful they are in the warm ups. As for being biased, I believe I was extremely biased when I first began watching after the 1994 Olympics. I didn't even know all of the jumps at that point and I was outraged that Oksana beat Nancy. (She was my first favorite). But...it is odd how things change. I've now trained myself on all of the elements by watching thousands of hours of competition tapes! (Glad to hear there are so many others!). And, my tastes have changed significantly. I've been a huge Michelle Kwan fan since 1995, but I don't believe I've ever been a biased fan. I'd like her to win every competition...but she doesn't. I don't think it is at all wrong to have a specific favorite(s), just as long as you are (as a fan anyway) able to step back and see their flaws. Some of Michelle's rivals have become my co-favorites over the years....Tara Lipinski, Irina Slutskaya and Sarah Hughes. But, I still can be found in the fetal position everytime Michelle takes to the ice in a major event! I just get so nervous, but that is part of the reason I love this sport so.

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