2009-10 ISU Grand Prix selection guidelines

[Mathman]

I think Skate America will absolutely invite Evan as World Champion, and Jeremy as U.S. Champion.

The third spot will probably go to Mroz or Carrier, allowing Weir to go to Russia, France or Japan.

[enlight78]

I think Skate America will absolutely invite Evan as World Champion, and Jeremy as U.S. Champion.

The third spot will probably go to Mroz or Carrier, allowing Weir to go to Russia, France or Japan.

What about the two time defending Jr World Champion Amazing Adam Rippon who has out score Mroz best by over ten points.

[merrybari]

I think Skate America will absolutely invite Evan as World Champion, and Jeremy as U.S. Champion.

I hopefully agree, and am thinking Adam would be the third.

[seniorita]

and johnny would go where?

[merrybari]

and johnny would go where?

Well, I suspect for one he'd like Russia, and then maybe NHK? I think either or both would choose him.

[Joesitz]

I'd like to see Evan and Jeremy battle it out at SA. The third skater should be one that could be sacrificed because we do not know which international skaters will wind up in SA except that it must be a 2009 podium 4-6 trailing skater.

Who could be the sacrificial lamb? and maybe rise to the occasion. remember Evan got 2 bronzes last year and did not make the Final

[enlight78]

Who could be the sacrificial lamb?

:chorus:Have figure skating became a cult already. If we have to sacrifice anybody I say Armin or Ryan. Sorry.

[Joesitz]

:chorus:Have figure skating became a cult already. If we have to sacrifice anybody I say Armin or Ryan. Sorry.

C'mon Enright. You know the rules! A skater must earn at least 24 points to be considered for the Finals. Whoever is in that 4-6 goup will not allow for the Americans to sweep the podium. One will have to take a dive.

4-6 Trailers - Verner, Contesti, Kozuka. One of them will have to show up at SA., so we have Evan, Jeremy and Takahito. Therefore a sacrificial lamb - a good skater who will gain experience with his first international competition. No?

[Mathman]

Therefore a sacrificial lamb - a good skater who will gain experience with his first international competition. No?

Just for fun, I looked up to see who were the sacrificial lambs in previous years.

One unusual thing was that Johnny Weir never did Skate America until last year. Even when he was U.S. champion he preferred to pass up Skate America and to skate somewhere else later in the season.

Anyway...

2008: Weir (2nd), Lysacek (3rd), sacrificial lamb Rippon (8th).

2007: Lysacek (2nd), Carriere (4th), lamb Bradley (6th).

2006: Lysacek (2nd), Smith (6th), lamb Bradley (8th).

2005: Lysacek (2nd), Goebel (6th), lamb Dennis Phan (11th)

2204: Jahnke (2nd), Weiss (3), lamb Lysacek (5th)

2003: Weiss (1st -- this is the last time an American man won Skate America), Smith (5th), lamb Jahnke (12th).

2002: Savaoie (3rd), Weiss (5th), lanb Delmore (8th)

[sillylionlove]

Can't wait until the actual list comes out....then let the fighting and analyzing begin!!

[nylynnr]

The way a lot of the #3 U.S. guys skated at the aforementioned SA's, it wasn't so much sacrifice as suicide.

[fairly4]

caroline zhang has the 5th best season best score not the 7th. as posted in earlier post.
check the isu internet.
unless the usa only went by the four continents score when she had the 7th best.

[Joesitz]

caroline zhang has the 5th best season best score not the 7th. as posted in earlier post.
check the isu internet.
unless the usa only went by the four continents score when she had the 7th best.

That opens the question of who will be the sacrificial lamb for the Ladies.

If YuNa gets SA (and I think she will) and Sasha makes her grande comeback? Who could be the third who would need a prior silver (13 points) to average out 24 points in a tie with 3 or 4 others. It's oh so iffy for the Amerians to do something here if Sasha's bid for a second GP is turned down.

Let's face it, YuNa will be in the Finals. Over and Out. Sasha if she can get Paris (her favorite) and face Mao and Rochette, she may land a 4th or 9 points for a total of 22 points. Enough?

We have to remember that SA is the 5th GP to be skated. There are 4 GPs ahead of it, and SC is after that which will probably be Rochette and Yukari.
Mao will probably show up in Paris and Tokyo.

It's a tough series of events in which, I believe, no American will make the Final. Who will make the Final? It's the old, wait and see.

[Mathman]

Here is my prediction for who gets invited to Skate America: Miki Ando from 1-3, Rachael from 4-6, Alissa, Sasha.

[PolymerBob]

It's a tough series of events in which, I believe, no American will make the Final.

I really think Evan will make the Final, as well as Tanith and Ben.

One or both of Rachael and Caroline have a very good shot.