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Example?!
You may not be in North America, I don't know.
But in the USA, the examples are everywhere. All you have to do is look around.
Example?!
You may not be in North America, I don't know.
But in the USA, the examples are everywhere. All you have to do is look around.
I am in USA, and I was in Canada. But I still don't understand what you are talking about.
Are you actually serious ?
You are in the USA and you haven't seen all the women's body building magazines ? Heck, even Madonna, later on, built up her body and looked more manly.
If you can't see it, I guess you are blinded to it. That's all.
Nothing wrong with being fit and in good shape. That's one thing. But going to extremes and trying to be manly, that's another. I prefer the feminine look.
Just my taste.
Not at all, but what does it have to do with skating?If you like feminine men, go ahead. There is nothing wrong with it. I don't. Again I don't like "Joe-Six-Pack", and I don't like feminine men. I like gentleman like men. There is nothing wrong with that either. Is that bias?
Of course, women's body building magazines are body building magazines. Madonna is not an average American. Look at the average women in America, how many women could you find on the streets, in the malls, or any where that have these extremes? I go to 24 Hours fitness center regularly. I rarely see a woman who could fit the name you gave.
I believe that everything has to have a limit. If it goes over the board, it will become the opposit. For example, drink a little wine could boost the blood flow in the body and prevent desease, but if you drink too much and become drunk, it will become a source of trouble and also damage one's health. Maybe I was wrong, but you jumped in and cheered the name that dancingqueen has just made up. It sounds like that you and dancingqueen think that people have some sort of bias by not liking a man acting like a woman. (I am not talking about gay. I don't care about gay or not gay. That's not my business.) But to observe a kind of art, such as the artistic perspect of figure skating, there is nothing wrong with people who do not like some kind of style, including not liking a man acting like a woman. I think it's natural. Bias is a fashionable word these days, isn't it? Everything can be raised onto the level of bias. When the word "bias" comes along, it seems that there is something wrong. So be it.
If you like feminine men, go ahead. There is nothing wrong with it. I don't. Again I don't like "Joe-Six-Pack", and I don't like feminine men. I like gentleman like men. There is nothing wrong with that either. Is that bias?
I don't care
It sounds like that you and dancingqueen think that people have some sort of bias by not liking a man acting like a woman. (I am not talking about gay. I don't care about gay or not gay. That's not my business.)
*Now i read last pages of the thread carefully i think i m out of subject, i thought you were discussing costumes. I m sorry.
No way should that zebra be on the podium. It had crappy transitions and did a lot of two-footed running away from the lions.speaking of zebra (me i liked very much this costume) have you seen this photo? lambiel
Figure Skating, as an International sport, has always been U.S. focused. Meaning this is where the money was to support it. The U.S. is where coaches and skaters came from all over the world. That has changed and the money is drying up. I don't think Britain is going to pick up the slack either, or Italy or anyone else for that matter. There isn't any money in Europe or Britain for them to fill the vacuum that is currently being created. So it is not a good situation for the sport.
I think it is great that the Eurosport commentators do such a wonderful job, but that has nothing to do with the U.S. CoP is unintelligible to the average U.S. viewer. I don't believe our commentators buy into this European designed system either. We need to see it from the perspective of the average viewer, and not our own insular little skating world, or the sport will die.
You missed it because he only used it once, at the French Masters event. By TEB he had the second costume.dear god, HOW i have missed this costume?
This may be irrelevant, but I recall all the stuttering and muttering coming from my Eurosport commentators, when Chan won TEB 2008 over Kozuka. They kept saying "but it's ehm the overall quality of his skating" and sounded so uncertain and insecure, that I went completely LOL But ah it was late in the evening and I was probably the only person in the country who watched that broadcast, so no harm was really done.
... speaking of zebra (me i liked very much this costume) have you seen this photo? lambiel