You're probably stuck in the 19th century ballet tradition which was financed by Czars and Kings. Ballanchine thought all that glitter got in the way of pure dance.
I happen to like figure skating without the glitter. Just skating as a Sport. I'm ok with SOA.
Can we at least call it what it is? It is not "being picked on". It is not "being teased." What I went through, what the guys who skate go through and others that are singled out go through is not a rite of passage of childhood that everyone goes through. It is abuse!! Pure and simple and I truly believe that until it gets called what it truly is, we will never see an end to this in our schools/society.That's not the point. The point is that it shouldn't matter if people are gay or straight. And I really wished that some of the skaters who were asked like that Canadian ice-dancer, would have answered: "Of course I was picked on as a child because I am a skater. Just like they picked on the girl with the really bad acne, or on the guy who was like a human calculator or on the girl who used to wear shirts with sheep on them." What's with the whining "I was picked on because people thought I was gay because I am a skater"? Everyone gets picked on as a child / teenager. Why does the sport has to change because the world is so narrow-minded?
Sorry for hijacking the thread, but obviously this subject's a rather sore one w/me thanks to my own experiences.
As for Skate Canada's campaign....Someone needs to sit Michael Slipchuk down and have a very long talk w/him. This is not the direction he/.SC needs to be taking things in w/us now in the Countdown to Vancouver.
thanx for info, now i have homework to do:o
harmless variations of the sport, where the bulls don't get hurt (often there is some kind of rosette that has to be taken from the bull and that's it - the young men get hurt sometimes though). I watched one of those spectacles in Nîmes (in this arena) and it looked like a lot of fun and after the fête is over, the bulls are taken back to the Camargue to continue their relative free life.
i have watched something similar to the thing you described (or it is the same, I m not sure) in V. Boucau as a part of a tourist attraction and thought the animals were still tortured, they just dont die...
gay comments are always there - it becomes boring- when there is some connection to dance and music, like modern dance or ballet or something. It goes the same for every sport that doesnt include kicking and spitting..
it bothers me the same that my male friends watch skating with me just because the girls wear short dresses.
PAIRSSKATER of FSUniverse did clarify things with the response of Mr. Thompson. Elvis has way done too much downgrading and too much insulting to figure skating and the figure skaters. He was bitter while he was still skating and much more bitter now because the current figure skaters have been very versatile and resilient with all the demanded changes/rulings required for competitions showing that figure skating is an art and a sport at the same time and they are amazing.
You are all missing the point. The discussion about whether they should make figure skating more "masculine" originated from a discussion in Canada about declining viewership. The media turned it into a lightening rod issue, but that's not where the conversation started. So let's address the real issue-declining viewership. It has nothing to do with the costumes. It has nothing to do with being gay or straight. It has EVERYTHING to do with how skating has evolved. Technically it is more demanding, right? More athletic right? But skating is still losing viewers in Canada, America and many other places. It's about the direction this sport has taken in terms of scoring and program requirements. They have interfered with the beauty and flow of the programs and people have lost interest. A bigger factor is that the general public cannot follow the scoring. DO NOT bother to tell me that it isn't that hard to understand. For the PAYING PUBLIC it is. That's all you need to know. If they can't follow it or participate in it, it's over. Another issue is that there is no female figure skater people are connecting to, including Yu Na Kim. The loss of Michelle Kwan had an enormous impact on the sport. It devastated it. She connected with the public in a way that is unprecedented, and I am including Peggy Fleming and Sonia Henie in that statement. The current Asian skaters don't have the emotional connection to the American public. They are more within themselves, unlike Michelle who was out there in full force with her incredibly appealing personality. Ditto Elvis. A strong personality who carried skating in Canada on his back for many years. So unless we straighten the sport out from top to bottom and find another Michelle Kwan, this sport is on a downward spiral, outside of Korea and Japan.
kyla2 -- couldn't have said it better myself. You saved me a lot of typing.
Skating is dying in North America because they destroyed the scoring system and also lost their stars... and they blame sequin costumes. Yeah, we're in trouble.
But Skate Canada can't do anything about the scoring system, and even if they could, they're probably thinking about how it benefited their skaters. And the accusations of judicial corruption and the actions of the ISU fueling those accusations, it seems, Skate Canada really can't do anything about.
I think they're in denial that they're kind of helpless right now. This is something they can do, so they're doing it.
Except this makes no sense, as kyla clearly explained. CoP has already ramped up the technical elements and diminished the artistic side -- and what is the result? Lost viewership, falling attendance. Talk about doing the wrong thing. And costumes? If they're all in black boring costumes or uniforms, how will that raise attendance? It won't. Hockey and beer monkeys aren't going to watch figure skating. They need to get real, fast.