6.0 Judging - How It Works ?

Hi everyone,

Recently , I have been trying to understand the 6.0 system in a detailed way. As everyone knows, whoever has the majority, wins the game.

However, as every skater has a different planned program with different jumps, spins, it makes it a little confusing.

So, here are my questions :

1 - Does every figure ( jump, spin , footwork etc. ) have different base value ? For example, Triple toe 0,4, triple lutz 0,6 ? Like this ? Is there any page where the base values are listed ?

2 - Does every judge have different base values ? It is interesting. One gives a lot of credit to a salchow than a toeloop with an extremely difficult entry and good air position ? I am curious about that because the range of marks can be really huge when a skater makes a mistake ...

3 - How does the entrance, the landing, the air positions of the jumps affect the technical mark of the judge ?

Sorry for my poor English

Thanks in advance.

Hi, irinas.

Are you asking about the old "6.0" system, or about the system currently in use, the "Code of Points," or the "ISU Judging System?"

Under the old 6.0 or "ordinal" system, each judge gave a skater two overall marks (6.0 was the highest), one for the technical content taken as a whole and one for presentation. Based on these marks, each judges gave an ordinal (first place, second, third, etc.) to each skater. The skater with the majority of first place ordinals won, although there were some complicated features of the system when no skater received a majority of first place ordinals.

There were no "base values." Judges were free to give more or less weight to the features of the program that they thought were most important, although there was a rough consensus on what constituted an excellent technical or artistic perforance.

Under the new system, each paricular element has a base value. Here is the list of base values for all of the scored elelments.

http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=934

Here are some other ISU documents that explain the system.

http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-152055-169271-nav-list,00.html

1. Each of the listed elements (for a ladies long program, for instance, they do 7 jumps, 3 spins, one spiral sequence, and one footwork sequence) has a base value. Other elements, like split jumps, Ina Bauers, etc., do not have specific values but are counted as contributing to the overall program under choreography, transitions, etc. A triple toe has a base value of 4.0. A triple flip has a base value of 5.5.

For spins and step sequences there are also "levels," determined by the technical specialist, that reflect the degree of difficulty of the element.

2. All judges use the same scale of values in the IJS.

If your question was about the old 6.0 system, judges had a lot of leeway about which features to put emphasis on in their scoring.

3. The entrance, air position, and landing are rewarded (or punished) in the "Grade of Execution" (GOE). Each judge grades each element on a score from -3 to +3, which is added to the base mark. So for instance, if a triple Lutz attempt (6.0 base value) takes off from the wrong edge, the skater might get a -2 GOE and end up with only 4.0 points for that element.

The judges also give overall scores for five "Program Components" (Skating Skills, Transitions, Presentation, Choreography, and Interpretation of Music), which together are like the old "presentation mark" in the 6.0 system.

Add up all the points, whoever has the most points wins.

(I hope I understood your question.)

In the 6.0 system, judges went to 'judging school' by their Feds, or maybe it was run by the ISU. They learned much of the same thing they did at CoP school and kept it all in their heads. It was not detailed on paper. No one questioned their ability to judge if the ISU approved of it.

During that period, Presentation was a separate mark and was more of a single judge opinion. Just how nicely did the skater appear on the ice? It also affected the Whole Package of combining the essence of the technical skills with the presentation.

The CoP goes into details of the elements on paper so that all skaters get credit (or discredit) due to them. It's nit picking but I appreciate it. There is also some presntaton scores added to the elements. While I like the CoP's layout of the Tech, I really think they could work on the GoEs, the Levels, the Tech Panel.

For the Program Component scores the CoP is far too detailed in figuring out just what the Whole Package is. The PC really need a complete overhaul of this second mark. It doesn't take much to see which skater had the best program.

irinas said:

1 - Does every figure ( jump, spin , footwork etc. ) have different base value ? For example, Triple toe 0,4, triple lutz 0,6 ? Like this ? Is there any page where the base values are listed ?

2 - Does every judge have different base values ? It is interesting. One gives a lot of credit to a salchow than a toeloop with an extremely difficult entry and good air position ? I am curious about that because the range of marks can be really huge when a skater makes a mistake ...

3 - How does the entrance, the landing, the air positions of the jumps affect the technical mark of the judge ?

Click to expand...

Under 6.0, it is a relative system (versus the absolute standard of IJS). A judge looks at their notes at the end of the first program and assigns a tech and a presentation score. For each skater after, the judge will decide was the tech better than before or worse? Was the presentation better than before or worse and assign marks accordingly. Each judge would decide what to weight the elements and the presentation.