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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    I'm seeing Shen and Zhao!!!!
    OMG!!!! SHEN AND ZHAO!!!!! This is such an amazing surprise, OMG I hope they get to their competitions in excellent health.

    I do not see Pang and Tong... what happened??

    EDITED: Ok I just saw them... man, seeing Shen and Zhao really got to me, I couldn't see P&T names hehehe... I didn't expect to see their return, but it is awesome!!
    Last edited by Hikaru; 06-01-2009 at 12:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feraina View Post
    Well, Caroline won't make it to GPF, so all this is moot....
    Apparently USFS was so worried about not having Caroline and Rachael skate against each other at Skate Amercia that they decided to throw Caroline under the bus instead.

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    I don't think it's impossible that Caroline can get a bronze at TEB. Nakano is always a question mark because of her technique, and Kostner is wildly inconsistent (this is even more likely to be so at the start of the season). The only problem is that Caroline never looks good at the start of the season (2008 SC & TEB), and always looks fantastic and in top shape at the end (2009 4CC, JW and WTT). She might have to speed up her training even further if she wants to be ready for the 1st (TEB) and last (SC) individual GP events of the season. A silver for her at SC is definitely within reach.

    That's quite a huge gap she's got between TEB and SC...the only advantage for us is that we get to see Caroline's new programs so early in the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongligl View Post
    That is a fact. I was blessed to have seen them working on their programs. It was so hard to keep it to myself as they asked to keep it secret at that time. I'm so happy now it's official!!! They are not just back, they are better! Believe it or not, they're even technically stronger! They can do both 2A-2A and 3T-3T sequences now and any of these would have a higher base jump base value than 2007 when they left with Gold for every single competition they entered, literally a sweep of Gold for 2007. On top of that, they worked on every single aspect of skating with specialists and worked meticulously with their choreographer to the nuance of each note. I'm just over the moon now. This season is going to be really exciting!

    Go Shen/Zhao!!!
    Wow!!!!! Thank you sooooo much! Pairs skating will be attractive again. If any one could make a miracle, it'll be Shen&Zhao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrlmy View Post
    .Btw, is the undecided SA spot reserved for MK or possibly Angela or Kristi
    I doubt MK will skate comps anymore, and if she did she would never travel to Lake Placid.

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^ This all makes sense, but I still think Caroline has a chance for 5 reasons.

    1) She has lots of problems; slow speed, wobbly edges, mule-kick, poor height on jumps. But she admits her faults and is willing to work to improve them. She has lots of room to improve because she has lots of faults.

    2) The judges seem to be warming up to her. She is starting to get more rotation credit and edge credit than she did before.

    3) It is possible her growth spurt is over.

    4) She has a new weapon in her arsenal. That forward charlotte is a move not many skaters can do, and it's a big point getter.

    5) The European ladies seem to be faltering right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I think the 88-year-old traditions of the USFSA, and in particular the mind-set left over from the days of ordinal judging, will carry more weight than adding up tenths and hundredths of a point. I think the two scenarios will be treated the same. Somebody won, somebody lost. Sasha absolutely goes no matter what.
    That means that the National winner is guaranteed a spot on the Olympic team. I did not see that in the bulletin the USFSA put out last year. In fact, they seemed to say the opposite.
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    I would love to know what they were thinking as they kept adding more and more ladies onto the list for TEB. First Carolina, OK. Oh, Mao, too? That will make a good competition. Yukari Nakano? Well, there's your podium. Yu-Na Kim?? Wait, wait, wait... That rivalry isn't supposed to happen until the finals. Sasha Cohen?? Whaaaat??? That comeback isn't supposed to happen until Skate America. Aaaaand Caroline Zhang. Who's she? Oh yeah... I think I remember her. She was just starting to get good, but I didn't see her at Worlds...

    My impulsive prediction for GPF: Joannie, Yu-Na, Mao, and Miki are pretty much locks. The two remaining slots will go to any combination of Yukari, Rachael, Laura, Caroline, and Carolina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polymer Bob
    This all makes sense, but I still think Caroline has a chance for 5 reasons...
    I would add one more reason. Yuna Kim was great...in 2008-09.

    Mao Asada was great...in 2007-08.

    What will happen in 2009-10?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Yes. Substitutes are drawn from the Seasons Best list. For Ladies (Italics means skater is probably going to skate in the JGP)


    19 153.84 Kanako MURAKAMI JPN
    20 149.28 Yukiko FUJISAWA JPN
    21 147.46 Angela MAXWELL USA
    22 147.41 Ivana REITMAYEROVA SVK

    23 146.69 Becky BERESWILL USA 1 spot
    25 145.00 Haruka IMAI JPN
    26 144.49 Alexe GILLES USA 1 spot
    27 143.02 Kristine MUSADEMBA USA
    29 142.24 Oksana GOZEVA RUS 1 spot
    30 142.12 Beatrisa LIANG USA 1 spot
    31 140.67 Elena GLEBOVA EST 1 spot
    34 139.50 Yan LIU CHN 1 spot
    35 139.44 Amanda DOBBS USA skating PAIRS
    36 139.37 Jenna MCCORKELL GBR 1 spot
    38 137.78 Ksenia MAKAROVA RUS
    39 137.05 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 1 spot
    40 136.98 Annette DYTRT GER 1 spot
    41 136.41 Alexandra NAJARRO CAN
    42 136.16 Mira LEUNG CAN 2 spots
    45 135.25 Candice DIDIER FRA 1 spot
    46 134.90 Stefania BERTON ITA skating PAIRS
    48 133.54 Shoko ISHIKAWA JPN 2 spots
    49 133.26 Binshu XU CHN 1 spot
    50 131.50 Na-Young KIM KOR 2 spots
    51 131.46 Diane SZMIETT CAN 1 spot
    52 130.85 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR 1 spot
    53 130.29 Anna JURKIEWICZ POL 2 spots
    54 128.93 Nana TAKEDA JPN 2 spots
    55 127.25 Melissa BULANHAGUI USA 2 spots
    56 126.65 Isabel DRESCHER GER
    57 125.61 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS 2 spots
    58 125.39 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 2 spots
    59 124.95 Sonia LAFUENTE ESP 2 spots
    60 124.50 Kana MURAMOTO JPN
    61 124.18 Miriam ZIEGLER AUT

    62 123.88 Cheltzie LEE AUS 2 spots
    63 123.85 Mae Berenice MEITE FRA
    64 123.52 Sandy HOFFMANN GER
    65 123.12 Marissa SECUNDY USA

    66 122.75 Jenni VÄHÄMAA FIN 2 spots
    67 122.70 Francesca RIO ITA 2 spots
    68 121.97 Rumi SUIZU JPN 2 spots
    69 121.64 Hyeon-Jung KIM KOR 2 spots
    70 120.61 Nella SIMAOVA CZE 2 spots
    71 119.89 Rebecka EMANUELSSON SWE
    72 118.71 Rylie MCCULLOCH-CASARSA CAN

    73 118.39 Viktoria HELGESSON SWE 2 spots
    74 118.09 Evgania TARASOVA RUS
    75 117.98 Roberta RODEGHIERO ITA
    OK, thanks. Not from the world standings lists then. I just saw the updated ISU statistics: http://www.isu.org/vsite/vcontent/pa...m-item,00.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolymerBob View Post
    That means that the National winner is guaranteed a spot on the Olympic team. I did not see that in the bulletin the USFSA put out last year. In fact, they seemed to say the opposite.
    They did indeed seem to say the opposite.

    But even so, I don't think they will do the opposite.

    Just my opinion about how the powers-that-be in the USFSA will, in sober fact, go about selecting the team when the time comes.

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    I sure hope Shen/Zhao do really well this season!! I would love to see them win the gold medal at the Olympics!!! (sorry to at the S/S fans out there but I am not a fan of them!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by feraina View Post
    Well, Caroline won't make it to GPF, so all this is moot. I think at this point, it'd be easier for Caroline to aim for a win at National's than qualifying for GPF (though she definitely shouldn't blow off the GP season either; she should at least put up respectable scores if not placements), and I don't hold high hopes of that either given her past experiences at National's...


    Feraina, you are right to the point. I am just so mad! It looks to me that it's obvious that USFS doesn't care about OO or even doesn't want to see her succeed (let's kill her any chance from the beginning!) This is really sad.

    Caroline should take it in stride, just train as usual or even harder and kick some *** at next year's National. Or, is it too late to switch to another federation?

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    I'm facebook friends with Caroline, and her status since Saturday is "Oh no..."

    Coincidence? I think not.

    from the source herself, there ya go. Yes, USFSA has no love for Caro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    I doubt MK will skate comps anymore, and if she did she would never travel to Lake Placid.
    This will be a test of Michelle's resolve. If she really, really wants it, she will go to the ends of the earth -- even unto Lake Placid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cornell08 View Post
    I'm facebook friends with Caroline, and her status since Saturday is "Oh no..."

    Coincidence? I think not.

    from the source herself, there ya go. Yes, USFSA has no love for Caro.
    Thanks for the information. I will try find her facebook. Poor Caro. But you know what, difficult situations can help develop a person's strong will. If Caro can survive this and make decent performance, she will have more advantage in competition experiences. Looking at the bright side, the coming National will be a piece of cake compare to TEB

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