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Thread: Prediction Thread for Trophée Eric 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolymerBob View Post
    For the men, we are probably looking at Brian to win.
    That what was everybody thought last year, too - and he finished off the podium. TEB has rarely been good for Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    That what was everybody thought last year, too - and he finished off the podium. TEB has rarely been good for Brian.
    Of 6 appearances, he has 2 silvers and a gold. If he stays injury free, he should do well.
    ( Of course you can say that about anyone. )

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    Hmm... Now I'm going to put Yu-Na Kim in top for this one...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z-IbHdMP18

    She's doing 3A + 2T, 3Lo, 2A, 3F + 3Lo + 2Lo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgqe3dADEb0

    Amazing 3S there and 3F + 2Lo + 2Lo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghm2fnQFZqk

    Watch from 2:40 onwards on this video, Mao is practicing 3T as her second jump and possibly replacing her 3Lo to avoid under-rotation.

    These are nice things but what worries me is that she is going to attempt 3A+3T
    It's going to be so early in the season and it might just not be ready then...
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    Mao will not attempt all of those jumps/combinations. She is practicing so many of them because it increases her confidence and she likes to have many options to chose from. Also, doing things like 3T out of half loop, loop, 1A, another 3T helps her improve her technique on the solo jump.

    Her best combo in those practice clips was 3L-3L:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLs9EDUcRNU

    And here you can see 3T out of a loop entrance and some 3As:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKIq7efUPTE

    I doubt she will attempt 3A-3T at TEB - too much at stake.[*] I think she will start with the more safe jump layout, and if she'll put 3A-3T in her programs, it will probably be at GPF or Nationals.

    She just said in a conference for Japan Open that she doesn't plan to concentrate on jumps. She plans to do one 3A and concentrate on performance instead.
    [*] - JSF has changed the Olympic/World Team qualification rules for the upcoming season. Now they are planning to name the team based on the results from the whole season, not just the Nationals. So it's important for Mao to make GPF.

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    Oh! Good then... But I kinda want to see Mao doing 3A+3T!!
    She has lots of option since she's very consistent in most of her triples!
    3T
    3S
    3Lo
    3F
    3A

    She's able to do them right? But even so at TEB, I think she should be doing either 3F+3Lo, 3F+3T, 3Lo+3Lo or 3A+2T in the SP! For the FS, I don't know what she's planning, but it'll be amazing!

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    If Mao can whip off those triple axels consistently, she will be unstoppable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolymerBob View Post
    If Mao can whip off those triple axels consistently, she will be unstoppable.
    Maybe, maybe not. The judges prefer programs that are packed choreographically as Yu-Na Kim and Joannie Rochette have shown. Mao IMO has let her choreography take a back seat to her 3Axel attempts, which is unfortunate. As exciting and dramatic as her LP music was last season, her choreography did not match the music; it was very spare and bland to me. Even with the 3Axels, Mao still has no solid Lutz or Salchow jump from what I've seen of her. Her triple+triple attempts have been known to receive downgrades and negative GOEs from the judges occasionally. One jump alone cannot win a championship is the point I'm making.

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    The Asada camp sure is talking the talk, eh?

    That said, I have no doubt she is capable of doing it. Can she (or will she) attempt the jumps in competition, though, and if so, will she be successful? (I'm thinking of Miki Ando, who tried the Quad jump at the Olympics, fell, and wound up out of the top 10)

    Still, this early showdown will set the tone leading up to the Olympic event. At this point, both her and Yuna Kim are the favorites for the OGM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dog View Post
    Still, this early showdown will set the tone leading up to the Olympic event. At this point, both her and Yuna Kim are the favorites for the OGM.
    Yes, but when was the last time the favorite won the ladies' gold?

    I think it was 1988.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolymerBob View Post
    Yes, but when was the last time the favorite won the ladies' gold?

    I think it was 1988.
    That's what makes the Olympics fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolymerBob View Post
    Yes, but when was the last time the favorite won the ladies' gold?

    I think it was 1988.
    Maybe farther than that. Debi Thomas was at least a co-favorite with Katarina Witt in 1988, while in 1984 Rosalyn Sumners was the defending world champion (Witt was fourth behind Sumners, Claudia Leister and Claudia Leistner and
    Elena Vodorezova at 1983 Worlds.)

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    Umm.. Kristi Yamaguchi?

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    I thought Ito would've been considered the favourite in 1992.

    Was Baiul really not considered the fave? She was the reigning world champion, after all.

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    So what you're saying is... that who ever wins the two Grand Prix events and the Final... Will most likely not win the Olympics??

    Let me see...

    Prediction for now...

    TEB: 1. Yu-Na Kim 2. Mao Asada 3. Yukari Nakano/ Caroline Zhang
    COR: 1. Mao Asada 2. Miki Ando 3. Alena Leonova/Alissa Czisny
    COC: 1.Joannie Rochette 2. Carolina Kostner 3. Rachael Flatt/ Mirai Nagasu
    NHK: 1. Miki Ando 2. Yukari Nakano 3. Alena Leonova/ Sarah Meir/ Laura Lepisto
    SA: 1. Yu-Na Kim 2. Rachel Flatt 3. Sasha Cohen/ Rachel Flatt
    SC: 1. Joannie Rochette 2. Caroline Zhang 3. Mirai Nagasu/ Laura Lepisto

    Entries for GPF in Tokyo
    Yu-Na Kim
    Joannie Rochette
    Mao Asada
    Miki Ando
    Yukari Nakano
    Caroline Zhang/ Rachel Flatt

    Since it's held in Tokyo...

    GPF: 1. Mao Asada 2. Yu-Na Kim 3. Joannie Rochette/ Miki Ando

    And Olympics?? Who's the favorite then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokky_oc View Post
    So what you're saying is... that who ever wins the two Grand Prix events and the Final... Will most likely not win the Olympics??
    Interesting point. The Grand Prix Final has been around since 1995. For the first 2 years, it was the Champions Series Final. ( Wikipedia is our friend. )
    8 ladies have won the title over 14 seasons.

    In those 14 seasons, there have been 3 Winter Olympic Games. Of the the 3 Olympic champions, only Tara was a past Grand Prix Final Champion.
    Last edited by PolymerBob; 08-18-2009 at 12:59 PM.

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