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    Quote Originally Posted by NatachaHatawa View Post
    I agree with much that has been said here. I think that she should have left Huth earlier rather than right now - it's a tough time to swap coaches. Brian would be a good coach for her, but I don't think he'll agree as he's got Yu-Na. As most people said, Nikolai Morozov wouldn't be agood choice.
    Concerning Mishin, I'd have been for, if this would have been another season than the Olympic season, as a transition coach, to work on some basic skills and work on rigoroussness. However, I don't think Mishin could enable her to get an Olympic medal. Peter Grütter sounds like a good option.
    What do you guys think about Priscilla Hill?
    I wasn't sure about Mishin because he's openly said he doesn't like training ladies. Plus, he seems pretty concentrated on Plushchenko right now. Maybe Grutter (she wouldn't need to move far). Hill is a long shot. Maybe Raphael Arutunian? Or maybe Kurt Browning? Or does he just do choreo?
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    Arutunian. No - his heart belongs to Sasha now! Back off, Carolina!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    Arutunian. No - his heart belongs to Sasha now! Back off, Carolina!

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    Quote Originally Posted by berrycute View Post
    IHill is a long shot.
    Hill has one of the top 5 American ladies - Ashley Wagner who I don't think would be very thrilled if Kostner showed up at her rink.

    How about John Nicks? He has M/B now but no lady.

    I am not really conversant with European coaches beyond TAT, Mishin, Moskvina, so I don't have any good suggestions there.

    How about Galina's team? She has Johnny W but no lady.

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    Doesn't Michin coach Katarina Gerbolt? is she the only lady he coaches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by berrycute View Post
    I wasn't sure about Mishin because he's openly said he doesn't like training ladies. Plus, he seems pretty concentrated on Plushchenko right now. Maybe Grutter (she wouldn't need to move far). Hill is a long shot. Maybe Raphael Arutunian? Or maybe Kurt Browning? Or does he just do choreo?
    Mishin complained about Russian female skaters not being competitive enough before.
    But I think now he might have a different idea on that since he's training very talented young Russian girls for 2014 Olympics.

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    Whoever she goes to, I hope it's not Orser. He doesn't strike me as a very ethical person. Instead on working on his skater's weaknesses he prefers to complain about the unfairness of the judges and the judging system, and while we are at it, whine about the other skaters' marks being too high.

    I suppose he's a good person to have on your side, though. As proved by Mishin, such "my skater is perfect" campaign works wonders. And it's the success that matters, isn't it?

    Personally I would love dor Carolina to try working with Lee Barkell. He doesn't have any elite skaters right now. He's a good jump coach, and his skaters praised him for the support he has offered them.

    I think it's sort of risky to change coach in the Olympic season, though. From what I've read in the interviews with the coaches and skaters who have changed coaches, the process of accustoming to new training regime and working on the skaters' technique and style can take a long time.

    Good luck to Caro, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okami View Post
    Instead on working on his skater's weaknesses he prefers to complain about the unfairness of the judges and the judging system, and while we are at it, whine about the other skaters' marks being too high.
    Are you talking about Arutunian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okami View Post
    I think it's sort of risky to change coach in the Olympic season, though.
    Well, it seems that skaters not changing coaches are in the minority this particular Olympic season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okami View Post
    Whoever she goes to, I hope it's not Orser. He doesn't strike me as a very ethical person. Instead on working on his skater's weaknesses he prefers to complain about the unfairness of the judges and the judging system, and while we are at it, whine about the other skaters' marks being too high.
    :

    Brian Orser "unethical?" I have never heard that before. Most skating fans can see what a wonderful job he has done guiding Yuna. I think the expectations for Rippon have increased since he has switched to Orser. And his name seems to come up alot whenever there is a coaching change these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    Brian Orser "unethical?"
    Yes, totally agree with Okami. For me at least an ethical person doesn't behave the way he did at CoC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enzet View Post
    Yes, totally agree with Okami. For me at least an ethical person doesn't behave the way he did at CoC.
    Oh, what did he do at CoC? I don't remember anything wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by enzet View Post
    Yes, totally agree with Okami. For me at least an ethical person doesn't behave the way he did at CoC.
    what did he do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okami View Post
    Whoever she goes to, I hope it's not Orser. He doesn't strike me as a very ethical person. Instead on working on his skater's weaknesses he prefers to complain about the unfairness of the judges and the judging system, and while we are at it, whine about the other skaters' marks being too high.
    I know why you don't like Orser. But I think you could disagree with his opinions but don't have any right to call it unethical.

    Don't forget Orser has been respected in the FS community for about 30 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post
    what did he do?
    As far as I remember he even filed a complaint or at least was very vocal about Yu-Na receiving an edge call on her flip and downgrade on her lutz.
    There was also a clip showing him commenting on Miki's jumps and comparing them to Yu-Na's.
    Not sure if this was the same competition but I also remember him saying Miki's 3-3 should have been downgraded.

    Personally, I don't like this. I don't remember any other coach making such a fuss about a tech.specialist's call. And there've been lots of questionable ones!
    Using Miki like this also didn't seem very ethical to me.

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