Originally Posted by enzet
I respect your opinions - but disagree that no other coaches (not to mention high ranking Federation officials) have ever made complaints about judging.
At the 2002 Olympics there were plenty of complaints about the Pairs, Dance and Ladies competition. There are many other examples that could be cited.
1980, 1994, 1998 all come to mind.
Originally Posted by Kunstrijdster
Thanks for reminding me - of the good old days - before cop and anonymous scoring from the judges.
I guess that despite Orser's "outburst" at COC he still managed to get enshrined in the Figure Skating Hall of Fame last Spring. Sombody in the skating world must respect his career achievements and believe in his integrity.
and... World Peace!
Tech Specialists in the good ol' days were the judges themselves... just because it's been taken out of their hands it still is valid to have a coach or other person debate the call.
Orser was calling for fairness, plain and simple. Score it right, that's what is supposed to happen...
I suspect you're entering a world of bot fanaticism Tinymavy. be prepared to be bombarded with youtube clips...
Originally Posted by Tinymavy15
and... World Peace!
just choreography... he's said in the past that he doesn't think he'd be good coach material.
Originally Posted by berrycute
It really looks like Brian Orser is not going to be Kostner's new coach:
He said he cannot take any more elite skater in his team.
Orser was inducted to the Hall of Fame this spring due to his achievements as a competitor. His coaching career was not part of the equation.
Originally Posted by janetfan
Coaches' complaints about technical panel decisions are commonplace. Just sticking with a few examples from last season, the Italian Federation tried to file a grievance at Europeans when Kostner's final spin was disallowed. Morozov was unhappy when Ando's triple-triple was called under rotated at Skate America. Zoueva has had plenty to say at several events; actually, for my money, various ice dance coaches complain the most, certainly more than Orser.
Good decision for Orser's team.I was really shocked when Takahashi left Morosov last season. I feel happy for not occuring the same thing to Yuna.I know she will not leave Orser, but something will affect the relationship between Yuna and Orser in case he takes Kostner.
Originally Posted by eleonora.d
Dedicated follower of the black line
Galina can coach Johnny, Viktor can coach Carolina?
Carolina will train with Frank Carroll this summer, not sure what's her plan after that. Wonder how Evan and Mirai will respond to this.
If Oser decided to take no more elite skaters and just focus on Yuna, I'm expecting the same from Frank.
I'm also curious about the impact of Caro's coach change on Tomas, they seem to share the same kind of mental issue and inconsistency in competitions. Should we blame the skaters or the coach for that?
I think Mirai/Yu-na are different scenarios. Mirai is up and coming and should be looking more at Sochi.
Originally Posted by ae9177
I don't know if we can blame Huth for Caro/Tomas's issues. But the fact that so many of his students have these issues makes you wonder....
Last edited by bekalc; 06-10-2009 at 08:14 AM.
Thank God for Stephane Lambiel and Matt Savoie!
It's "Huth". But you are right bek. He seems to have coached some skaters with the most impressive raw talent but somehow just couldn't teach them how to be good competitors. We can't forget about Silvio Smalun either, who I thought had all the talent in the world but just couldn't land enough jumps to place himself in the top 10 on the world stage.
Last edited by shine; 06-09-2009 at 10:18 PM.
Beliver in Sasha's Perfect Program
Wow. Where did you hear this? I can't wait to go to the rink eveyday this summer. The whole olympic team will be there!
Originally Posted by ae9177
Smalun for me was one of the most interesting skaters out there, I loved his creative programs and his basic skating was awesome (just like all of Huth's skaters). Great steps and edges, great speed. I watched him in practice a couple of times and his jumps were great and consistent - but he NEVER showed it in competition. I felt really sad for him when he quit skating. I wish he could have lived up to his potential.
Originally Posted by shine
It's similar with Carolina - I've watched tons of practices of hers and I have pretty much never seen her fall. Her jumps are smooth, easy and light and so beautiful. Her movements are so big, she fills up the whole rink so easily. I wish she could show what I've seen in practice in competition once. She did it a couple of times (e.g. Worlds 2007 SP) but just not enough. I hope a new coach will help her to show her practice performance in competition. If she can do that, I see her on the podium at every single competition.