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Thread: Detroit Skating Club Show report (Czisny, Abbott, Weaver & Poje, Best & Young)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nylynnr View Post
    Could be it all worked out and nothing unfair went on.
    Probably so. I still wish they had invited Jeremy, Lysacek and Mroz to Skate America, along with Alissa, Rachael and Caroline and Davis & White, Belbin & Agosto and Chock & Zuerline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I wonder if U.S. dance champions Davis and White are well aware that they ended the season outranked as well.
    I'm sure they are. IMO, they may have been outranked, but they weren't outskated! We'll see what the next season brings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nylynnr View Post
    Strange, I'm really looking forward to Skate America. Also, I'm not sure there is any unusual about the assignments. Although he could have changed his tune with Jo-ann, Jeremy stated prior to the GP selection that he wanted NHK, because of commitments involving Yuka. If he also wanted to do Skate America, that would have meant returning from Japan and heading straight up to Lake Placid. I'm inclined to think that given his (requested) assignment to NHK, he is better off not turning right around from Asia and competing a few days later in upstate New York.
    Isn't there a new rule this year that says you can't compete in back to back GPs or did my mind make that one up??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mskater93 View Post
    Isn't there a new rule this year that says you can't compete in back to back GPs or did my mind make that one up??
    There isn't a rule; it's done from time to time, witness Evan last season doing Skate America and Skate Canada. I don't think it's the preferred schedule, though, for many skaters, especially if they have to be in Asia one week and North America the next. The purpose of my post was that Jeremy and Alissa have specific reasons to be pleased with their GP assignments, and AFAIK they don't lament missing Skate America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nylynnr View Post
    The purpose of my post was that Jeremy and Alissa have specific reasons to be pleased with their GP assignments, and AFAIK they don't lament missing Skate America.
    He said he was initially disappointed he wasn't selected for Skate America because he has never competed in the event.
    It was probably Jeremy's last chance to be there as an eligible skater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Probably so. I still wish they had invited Jeremy, Lysacek and Mroz to Skate America, along with Alissa, Rachael and Caroline and Davis & White, Belbin & Agosto and Chock & Zuerline.

    Hey MM, what you really wanted at Skate America was a complete roster of American skaters and no foreigners. Oh for the days of Campbells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post

    Hey MM, what you really wanted at Skate America was a complete roster of American skaters and no foreigners. Oh for the days of Campbells.
    All the Grand Prix's have three skaters from the host country and nine "foreigners" (in singles). So it is not a question of how many U.S. skaters will be at Skate America, but which ones.

    The way I look at it, that means "which ones have earned the invitation?"

    To me, Davis and White earned an invitation by being U.S. champions. Belbin and Agosto earned an invitation by their World silver medal.

    As for the issue that we don't want U.S. skaters going against each other, I am not not convinced. If both D&W and B&A were at Skate America, they would be favored for first and second in some order (assuming Delobel and Schoenfeler don't show up.) By leaving Davis and White off the Skate Amercia roster, now they have to face Domnina and Shabalin twice, including once in Russia.

    Think what a great competition Skate America could have been if they had B&A, D&W, Khokhlova and Novitski and Delobel and Shoenfelder at full strength. The event would be worth going to!

    Oh well. Go Chock and Zuerlein!
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    I don't think SA or any other Host can choose the entire roster at their gig. They can choose 3, and I noticed that other Host Gps, has 3 US ladies listed as well as Men. So I think the American ladies and men did well. Poor Javier only got one GP. Three US Dance teams are featured in three GPs. The USFS has not even named their Pairs Teams at SA save one couple.

    I don't think other Host Countries have so many of their skaters and teams above the normal as the USFS.has. Is that fair?

    We can not complain about how the selections were made although we would like to know. But the USFS has more skaters in the GPs than other disciplines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    I don't think other Host Countries have so many of their skaters and teams above the normal as the USFS.has. Is that fair?

    We can not complain about how the selections were made although we would like to know. But the USFS has more skaters in the GPs than other disciplines.
    This poster wrote pretty much the the same thing and provided some stats by country in this post in "Grand Prix 2009 Entries are up!" thread: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...&postcount=145

    In short, the U.S. had the most GP assignments because they had the most skaters/teams that were guaranteed slots.
    Last edited by Sylvia; 06-10-2009 at 05:36 PM.

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    But the question was about which U.S. skaters the USFSA should select for Skate America.

    Last year they selected U.S. men's champion Evan Lysacek. And U.S. ladies' champion Mirai Nagasu. And U.S. pairs champions McLaughlin and Brubaker. And U.S. dance champions Belbin and Agosto.

    It just seems funny to me that all of a sudden they don't want their own champions at Skate America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    But the question was about which U.S. skaters the USFSA should select for Skate America.

    Last year they selected U.S. men's champion Evan Lysacek. And U.S. ladies' champion Mirai Nagasu. And U.S. pairs champions McLaughlin and Brubaker. And U.S. dance champions Belbin and Agosto.

    It just seems funny to me that all of a sudden they don't want their own champions at Skate America.
    Wasn't that based on the US Nationals only? Do you realy think they should have selected Czisny, Abbott, Mcl/Bru, and Davis/White and not considered Worlds, where Flatt was the best American, Lysacek who won the Worlds, McL/Bru got it over Denny/Barrett who did better at Worlds, and B/A who got silver at Worlds as well as Chock/Zurlein who won Junior Worlds.

    I think the USFS is looking at their skaters with a broader view than before. I like that. It's not just that they are planning to get back 3 spots for the Ladies at 2010 Worlds, and get a Dance team on the podium for the Olys. It's for world wide reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    I think the USFS is looking at their skaters with a broader view than before.
    It looks like they are.

    I was skeptical when they came out with guidelines for the Olympic team that seemed to downplay the all-mportance of Nationals. I thought, talk's cheap, let's see what they actually do. Maybe USFS really is taking a fresh approach to the international scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Faiella and Scali did not perform. Someone on FSU said they were still training in Italy.

    Faiella and Scali usually do participate in most of the shows and charity events in the Detroit area. They are a big crowd favorite, as you can imagine. The last time I saw them was in a show to raise money for the medical expenses for a gravely ill little girl who was a member of one of the smaller local clubs.
    Massimo is injured and will not participate in a show in Japan planned by the end of this month
    http://filoecontrofilo.blogspot.com/...imo-scali.html

    I know they usually participate and I'm glad that they are appreciated in the USA

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