What she said can be very difficult is to skate at an event every 4-6 weeks over a 6-8 month period. The reason that is so demanding is because of the amount of training time a skater needs to put in to keep in competition shape. It is the rigors of training over a six to 8 month season that wear out skaters. It is NOT the competition itself.
Skating at an event, (aside from nerves). is the easiset thing a skater has to do.
The reason most boxers only fight 1 or 2 fights a year is because of the training time required to get into peak condition. Once peak condition is reached they have a fight. After the fight they typically will rest for a month or longer. This let's them re-charge their bodies. A skater appearing at a competitive event every 4-6 weeks over a 5-6 month period will have to keep in peak condition during that entire period. After a while, this wears on your body and in some cases your mind too.
Jeremy said at Worlds he had no pop in his jumps. He was like a boxer in the 10th round - his legs were gone.
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Let's just keep it a little girl's sport, and I will continue to eke out the positive athletes from the mix.
I agree with you that the training is very intensive.
But do you honestly believe 4 minutes of skating is as tiring as running a marathon? What about Nordic events? Or long distance swimming events. What about a cyclist doing one of the mountain stages at the Tour de France? Or a time trial race? A skater in top shape can skate their 4 minute program several times within an hour's time frame. I am not saying it is easy - but an active midfielder in a soccer/football game can cover over 10 miles in a game, much of it heavy sprinting.
There is a concentration factor to consider. Former chess champion Bobby Fischer was known to sweat off 5-7 pounds in a long, tough chess match. Most of the time he was sitting down. (Maybe he should have changed his brand of deordorant )
Maybe some of the skaters here can give us their take on this. But Frank Carrol is known to have his skaters do their programs straight through several times each day as they get close to a competition.
That doesn't sound as tough to me as fighting a 10 round boxing match or many other things I can think of.
I am not in favour of a Team Event being added because in this sport you have essentially one shot to win a medal. There are second chances or opportunities to win other medals- like in Gymnastics or Swimming for example. To me, that is what makes this sport so exciting. Seeing who can handle the pressure, exhaustion, and nerves and put down an amazing performance when it counts.
In sports like basketball and hockey, the teams play a lot of games one after another in the regular season. Then come the playoffs and suddenly they stop loafing and clowning and start playing "playoff ball."
Add in all the events and no wonder we have so many tired skaters at Worlds.
Why not just drop the GPF in an Olympic year. It feels more like a beauty pageant than a real skating competition imo.
Meanwhile the wood-pushers, even though they play only one game per day, or at most two, are utterly exhausted at the end of a week or ten days and are just begging for it please to be over (trust me on this. )
I will trust you on this one
But what is a "wood pusher" - and would you be one of them at a chess tournament?
Do you know where the competitions bewteen - um....Kasparoff and "Big Blue" (or whatever the name of the computer was that he played against?)
Was it true that the computer was being secretly assisted by a grand master or two without Kasparoff's knowledge?
Thanks for any infos
Ahh, completely off topic post. I should be sleeping, but I have a horrific stomach ache.
I seem to remember Kasparoff accused the tech controllers for the computer's team of cheating. Sound familiar
Hope you feel better soon.
Please avoid eating watermelon seeds and chocolate candles.
A "fish" is a wood-pusher who gets suckered into playing for money, especially in Central Park. Speaking of Bobby Fischer, when he was a teenager he used to hustle for quarters at the Manhatten Chess Club. I never beat him (knight odds).
Here are the complete games, on the IBM site.Do you know where the competitions bewteen - um....Kasparoff and "Big Blue" (or whatever the name of the computer was that he played against?)
In 1994, Kasparov squared off against the IBM program called "Deep Thought" (a play on "Deep Throat." ) Kasparov won handily.
Two years later, the new program was called Deep Blue. Kasparov lost the first game -- the first time a computer had ever beaten a world champiopn. But Kasparov rallied and won the match, 4-2.
The rematch was in 1997. This time Deep Blue won 2 games. Kasparov won 1, and there were three draws.
Deep Fritz was a competitor of Deep Blue. An early version of Fritz beat Blue in the early 90s. A decade later, after IBM lost interest in chess-playing proigrams, Fritz drew with Kramnik in 2002, drew with Kasparov in 2003, and finally beat Kramnik in 2006.
Interestingly, the newer versions of chess programs are pretty much all the same. The improvement has come in the hardware. Chess computers can now analyze billions of positions per second, so they don't really have to "think" much any more.
No. At that time Kasparov would have crushed any other (human) grandmaster.Was it true that the computer was being secretly assisted by a grand master or two without Kasparoff's knowledge?
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PS. Here is the five-time World Champion, playing the same opening (the Sicilian Defence) that Kasparov used in games 1 and 3 of the 1996 match.
It's MK's move.
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