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    Golden West (Sept. 3-6 in Culver City, CA)

    Event page with link to ticket info, schedule & roster:
    http://www.allyearfsc.com/events/

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    Wow. Rachael Flatt, Mirai Nagasu and Caroline Zhang all at the same summer competition! How exciting

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    Quote Originally Posted by liketotally View Post
    Wow. Rachael Flatt, Mirai Nagasu and Caroline Zhang all at the same summer competition! How exciting
    The senior ladies' field is loaded for bear. Caroline and Mirai will probably be monitored here. The men's field is not as loaded.

    It looks like most of the competitors will be American or Canadian, with a few other nationalities sprinkled in.

    EDIT : Mirai and Rachael have official web pages. Neither of them list the Golden West on their schedule.
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    Caroline might not do it if her knee is not 100%, so that will leave none of the big name ladies. I might go, but probably only if at least one of three show up.

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    Here's the direct link to the roster/groups: http://www.allyearfsc.com/events/GOL...9GW-Groups.pdf

    Many skaters' official sites do not list club (non-qualifying) competitions on their schedule. Being in the Team A envelope, Flatt will have a private monitoring session scheduled at her home rink in September, but has elected to compete this summer anyway (Colorado Championships earlier this month and scheduled for Golden West). Team B envelope skaters Nagasu, Zhang, and Inoue/Baldwin are expected to compete here for "competition readiness" monitoring in preparation for their Grand Prix events. Other envelope skaters like Dennis Phan, Douglas Razzano, and Alexander Johnson are likely competing here for possible Senior B assignments. Laney Diggs is already assigned to a JGP, while Kristiene Gong and the new Jr. pair team of Carman/Reiss are currently listed as JGP alternates for the US.

    Two of the Vancouver-based Canadian skaters on the roster -- Kevin Reynolds and Jeremy Ten -- went 1-2 in the Senior Men's event at Golden West last year (Ten went on to make his first World team for Canada).
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    It looks like it will be quite an event. Last year, I read a disturbing report that a third of the audience walked out after Caroline skated her long. As big a fan as I am, I thought that was a very rude audience. It was like the other skaters didn't matter.

    I would like to go, but since I'm in Massachusetts, there are about 3,000 reasons why I can't.

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    According to the schedule, the event has started. Maybe we will get a few reports and videos.

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    Ahhhh! I can't wait any longer, I want to see the girls' new programs!

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    thank you for the video of caroline--but I also would like one of Mirai and Rachel especially because that is where the problem lies-- they cheated for alissa /overscored her at liberty so bad-a bit of ashley-probably of rachel and miria-
    sorry i don't believe you-but what they have done--no benefit of doubt-
    i need to see for myself-untouch videos (in other words--no speed up, etc.)
    thank you if anyone can put them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairly4 View Post
    thank you for the video of caroline--but I also would like one of Mirai and Rachel especially because that is where the problem lies-- they cheated for alissa /overscored her at liberty so bad-a bit of ashley-probably of rachel and miria-
    sorry i don't believe you-but what they have done--no benefit of doubt-
    i need to see for myself-untouch videos (in other words--no speed up, etc.)
    thank you if anyone can put them up.
    If you're looking for videos of all three girls, just go to the previous page. They're all about 4 minutes long for the LP, so I'm sure there's no "speed-up" whatsoever because if there were they'd be shorter.

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    i can see what the problem was,the sp was kind of equal between rachel and mirai,but the lp rachel did was like 11 jumps all flawless,caroline did half the jumps and made a mistake like mirai.
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    okay i saw part of caroline and part of rachel,
    to me they both skated about the same in speed(but that doesn't say anything with video)
    what i saw i Rachel improved on her height in jumps ( so it doesn't look like she ur anythings) she did well and deserved her score.
    Caroline jumped like rachel did her jumps were lower so that some look like could have been ur and maybe not--that is where benefit of doubt comes in.
    caroline jumps (lower ones) were ur-rachel her first couple to me looked like could have been but because higher given benefit of doubt --no.

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    I APOLOGIZE
    I was totally wrong.
    okay this is what I saw, Rachel just skated her programs --but she did a great job, she needs to sell the long program a bit bet better-it was flat. no emotion or anything because just seeing how ready they were. Rachel is ready and will get better as season goes on. to me she just skated but as i stated okay being the type of competition.

    Mirai--was overmarked in the short--she should got nailed for the 2nd jump--it was two-footed. she didn't however she speed up in the short as she went along.
    in the long program toward the end she ran out of gas, maybe a bit overmarked in the long but not much. I don't think she was hurt-maybe not the score she liked but she is improving. Mirai to me--fought the long more than caroline and rachel.-but needs to keep it up all through her program, good speed and height on jumps.


    Caroline--okay need to improve height on jumps both long and short, improve speed in short. long to me just skated but okay for type of competition.
    the injury has hurt her with maybe coaching changes with no coach helping her during summer(i don't know).
    otherwise programs looks good.

    all three girls should get better as season progress,

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    Musings on Mirai’s programs:

    1) She interpreted her SP better than her LP. That said, this Carmen is more of a girlscout. I don’t think Mirai, Rachael or Caroline can really pull off sultry/sexy at this point…Ashley’s probably the only young up and comer who can get away with it for now.

    2) The theme (and best part!) of the Pirates soundtrack for some reason does not show up in the cut shes uses until the last part near the beginning of her footwork sequence. Why does she use that obscure, boring part of the soundtrack for the first 2/3rds of her program?

    3) She does a funky knee move at 2:47 of her SP video that I’m sorry, is more hysterical than what she’s going for I’ll bet.

    4) Not sure why she placed behind Caroline in the long...

    5) I really love watching this girl skate! Pure joy on ice Great start for her.

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    I'm really disappointed by Caroline's LP. If she wants to skate to music that has already been used so memorably by skaters like Sasha Cohen and Shen/Zhao, she needs to bring something new to it, and I'm afraid she doesn't. The construction of the program, with four jumping passes in a row with no choreography, is just bad. And the slow music just emphasizes her still unimproved lack of speed across the ice. Even if she cleans lands all of her jumps, I can't see how this will be a good vehicle for her to make the Olympic team.

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