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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptichka View Post
    Now, if you want to talk about the appropriateness of a coach ever hitting a student - that's a different story; I personally don't find it all that charming either.
    Thank you for making that clear, Ptichka.

    Great translation, BTW

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    Thank you so much for the translation Pitchka.

    Dee and Seniorita thanks for the great photos of the wedding party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wicked View Post
    Great interview. I've never read an interview with Mishin before. I almost didn't bother to read this one! I'm glad I did- Mishin is a very interesting man.
    Glad you liked it. Here are a few others - http://ptichkafs.livejournal.com/tag/mishin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptichka View Post
    Now, if you want to talk about the appropriateness of a coach ever hitting a student - that's a different story; I personally don't find it all that charming either.
    Don't forget that he was very likely hiting him about 10 or more years ago . I am not trying to make any excuses for him, but 10 or more years ago the way of punishments would be different than nowadays. Years ago there was a physical punishments which was considered 'normal' at schools too.

    Also, at Easter European countries the children were brought up differently than in Western world. Much stricter. Not so much in a 'democracy' but more like towards 'complete obedience'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    Also, at Easter European countries the children were brought up differently than in Western world. Much stricter. Not so much in a 'democracy' but more like towards 'complete obedience'.
    I've been careful not to use words such as "abuse" or the like. However, I do have to say that I am a bit older than Plushenko, grew up in the Soviet Union, and have never been hit by a parent, teacher, or coach. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptichka View Post
    I've been careful not to use words such as "abuse" or the like. However, I do have to say that I am a bit older than Plushenko, grew up in the Soviet Union, and have never been hit by a parent, teacher, or coach. Ever.
    Well, then you are lucky! I was brought in one of the easter European countries and have been hit by my parents quite often and by teachers sometimes (rarely). Most my friends were. (In fact, I don't know anyone from my generation who was not hit by parents or teachers.) I wouldn't call it abuse because the bottom line is that it was how things were done at that time. Every society makes the norms of behaviour and a lot of things which were considered 'normal' ages ago are now considered wrong, or which were wrong before are now considered 'normal'. If you call it abuse then you would be really saying that most of people in the past (and not only in the easter European countries) were physically abused. For example, in the UK corporal punishment including the use of the cane and ruler, was abolished in state schools in 1987 and 1998 in the fee-paying schools!

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    Hanca, I agree with you that most parents used corporal punishment (among my peer group, probably about 75%), but teachers - that surprises me. I know of one elementary school teacher in my school who used to hit her students' hands - some parents persevered in getting their kids transferred to parallel classes. Coaches were, indeed, different - there it was more prevalent.

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    My parents were always very traditional in their approach to bringing up kids including corporal pyunishment where they deemed it appropriate.

    I'm fairly certain that by the time i came to be schooled though it was outlawed in schools, despite this i remember one science teacher at school who thought nothing of thrownig the board duster and someone who was talking in his lesson and often would pinch or pull our ears or hit us on the back of the head if we'd been naughty in his class (this was in 1990/1991 in the UK). Undoutebdly it was illegal, but if i'd cmolpained about it at home, i'd have been in double trouble as my parents would have been mad that i was misbehaving in school.

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