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    They DO charge a higher walk on fee. There are plenty of skaters who go to LP for a short stint (esp in the summer) for the various camps.

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    Yes, I looked into adult camp, but was too late for this year. LP wrote back and said I didn't need USFSA card or club to attend, so that was good....Maybe will go next August.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondgirl View Post
    Yes, I looked into adult camp, but was too late for this year. LP wrote back and said I didn't need USFSA card or club to attend, so that was good....Maybe will go next August.....
    For planning purposes, August 4th-7th is the ice dance event. Walk on ice will be limited and most likely only available in the USA rink. Availability also depends on what hockey camps they have going on as well. The adult week is usually the last week of August. We haven't done much walk on ice in LP, but I don't recall them asking for any USFS information when my skater signed on. I do remember the cost being pretty high though if you weren't registered with a program. I want to say it was $25 for a 50-minute session.

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    Thanks for the info on LP. Wow ! That does seem like a lot of $......Maybe I will wait until adult camp. Pay one fee and skate all week.

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    I'm also a recreational skater - I just started again after a long time since I was in an area where there wasn't a public rink available :( I just recently found an older rink which is actually used as a local hockey team's practice facility; and they have public sessions that are pretty much free-for-alls (which is where I've done all my skating). Only problem is when the hockey players occasionally run all over the place, sometimes right through the figure skaters >.< But that's a different subject altogether lol. At least it IS a place to skate....I'm not crazy about paying for a club membership either...sometimes even the figure skating clubs tend to hog the ice at times. I'm a bit choppy myself but at least I'm trying...Currently I can only do two-footed scratch spins and maybe a few revolutions on one foot....trying to get up to a half-axel at least. I have no plans on competing, besides, I'm already 31. So far I've only been to four 2-hr public sessions...with zero off-ice training.....teaching myself all the way =D

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    New Friend!!

    Midori,
    Hi!! Oh, I'm so happy you are on the board!! (Not many of us rec skaters here.) ....
    Yes, public sessions that are "free for alls" are good in that they'll allow you to do your figure skating moves, but they also have to be "fair" and let the hockey gals and guys do theirs....So it's kind of like being a squirrel on a multi lane highway at rush hour..... ...
    That is the main reason why I skate the freestyle sessions. (And put up with the occasional snarky comment. :sheesh

    On another skating board they are currently discussing the "benefits" of joining a club/the USFS vs not. It's interesting. Basically, if you don't want to compete or take tests or lessons, and you can "get away with" practicing during sesssions or are willing to pay "walk on" (if they allow it) for freestyle, then you are probably fine without the club....However, the club does offer "social opportunities" (meeting other skaters, dinners, etc.) and most clubs have ice times (so you have more options to schedule your skating).....But they will also try to talk you into taking lessons, competiting etc. (But you HAVE to take lessons. You will get HURT. ) Pleeeeeezeeee :sheesh:

    Speaking of which... Don't know what is wrong with the ice skaters. When I skated roller all the freestyle skaters used pads on elbows/knees because when you fell the floor (wood or concrete) would rip your skin off. (We called it "wood burn.") Ice skaters use very little/no padding. Must like pain. But since you are working on freestyle, may want to use bubblewrap. (Yes, seriously). It has kept me injury free despite my "bad technique" .....
    Use the small bubble kind. Cut squares that cover your knees. Tape with medical take (wide kind works best), the tape they use to hold dressings in place. (White and very sticky. They sell it at all drug stores in the isles.) Tape to leg or stocking. I usually put three (top, bottom, middle). Don't wind it around, just a small piece of tape to hold pad to knee. Then take a pair of women's knee high stockings and cut off toe and put a slit in the top elastic for circulation. Pull that on as a sleeve to hold pad in place. (Make sure it is not too tight. Tight is good. Too tight is bad.) You now have a GREAT knee pad that is lightweight and will bend with you. (And is VERY strong. Those bubbles are like steel.) NICE!!
    Elbows are a bit different. I used a sweatshirt and sewed two pieces of bubblewrap into a square the size of my elbow, then used the same nylon "sleeve" (or a microfiber sock), just make sure it is not too tight. To keep it in place. If you use the bubblewrap by itself on the elbows it tends to fall off. Need the sweatshirt material "pocket."

    No problem teaching yourself as long as you are careful about it. Don't try for the triples just yet. Of course, be extremely careful of head. Unfortunately, no bubblewrap for head. ...The only caution I would give you is to make sure you don't want to compete if you do decide to teach yourself because you will pick up "bad habbits." (That is, you will do items that work but do not meet the ISU standards of "correctness." And if you did compete with them, you would be marked down.) For example, my flip uses an outside edge takeoff (lip) and sometimes my right leg flying spins (camel, deathdrop) have "salchow" takeoffs. This is not a big deal to me or to anyone watching me, but if I tried to test/compete I would be "called" on it.....One coach said I had "Mastered bad technique." Well, ok as long as I mastered it.
    Again, so glad you are on the board!! Will be watching for your posts!
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    I don't see myself pulling off even double jumps, let alone double axels or lutzes...backwards takeoffs just scare me Maybe single axels if I can at least manage waltz jump/axels, Eventually I'll land 'em, haven't fallen yet! So far I've only gotten two-footed scratch spins and not even forward crossovers yet...I can sort of do backwards cross-overs since I seem to use that particular edge (backwards-right inside, is that correct?) a lot, perhaps TOO much since I'm focusing on the scratch spins....might want to work on those. I do occasionally practice just holding the "right outside" landing position to get comfortable with balancing that way if you know what I mean ^^ Unfortunately the freestyle sessons at my rink are only for those who have completed certain levels of testing, like "Basic 8" or above :/ So I guess I am stuck with public sessions since I don't think I'm anywhere near that high. Saturday mornings have "Basic 4 and up" however. Wonder what level I am when I can't even do a proper jump yet? LOL. People half my age are no doubt way more advanced than I am so I'd also feel a bit, well, old? Tomorrow I am going to see if it's ok for me to bring my camera and prop it on the edge of the rink somewhere, or put it somewhere where it won't get knocked down, and zoom it on one corner of the ice, and somehow get footage of myself so I can actually observe my technique and what it looks like, find ways to improve, etc etc. My dad may actually come with me and take videos especially if there's an issue. I see lots of people on YouTube who've obviously planted a camera in a stationary position, during a public session so I'm not sure if people even care that much. Not quite sure how to ask that kind of question at the front desk, though. "hey is it ok if I record myself??" =D If I do manage to get clips I may post 'em somewhere for critiques ^^
    And thank you for the warm welcome! I will let everyone know how Sunday goes
    Last edited by midori78; 10-18-2009 at 09:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i love to skate View Post
    Just a question - how is it that you are able to skate during a club's freestyle sessions without being a member of the club or the US Association? I would think this situation causes all lot of liability issues, or am I mistaken? I know here in Canada this would bring up a lot of liability issues. Just curious!
    I am from Canada too and yes, we do have drop in sessions here as well ( least is BC). One does not have to be a club member. However, it is up to the recreational or drop in skater to observe good manners while on the ice and stay out of the "serious" skaters way. I used to find a corner and practice on my own.

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    It would be great if you can post something on the web. You shouldn't have any trouble with the rink if your dad takes the camera. I always see people taking pictures/video at the public sessions so they must usually allow it. Not sure about setting up a camera though....I did it at the roller rink (for this video), but they were not as strict as ice and it was a practice session. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KENo51j6Byc
    Sorry, only have inline stuff up now. Got to get some ice footage.:o

    For backwards crossovers... Yes, you are correct. For back clockwise crossovers it is right inside edge over left back outside edge. But crossovers go in both directions. So for back counter-clockwise crossovers it would be reversed (left back inside edge over right back outside edge).

    Keep practicing your landing edge. Good balance is a must. Interesting that you like forward takeoffs. (Most people are scared of them since you can "slip" off the edge more easily than on the back takeoffs.)

    I know how you feel about being "old." I just turned 40 and I feel really old. In a sport where a 25 year-old is considered a "grandmother," I am now beyond old. I think I may officially be a ..... vampyre.

    Anyways, it is great to have you on the board. And remember to use the bubblewrap!!

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    Dad has a cold so I decided not to go skating today. Going to try next week when my friend can go.

    Update: Looks like my friend and I are going to go Friiday night. Should have some video then ^^
    Last edited by midori78; 10-21-2009 at 01:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladskater View Post
    I am from Canada too and yes, we do have drop in sessions here as well ( least is BC). One does not have to be a club member. However, it is up to the recreational or drop in skater to observe good manners while on the ice and stay out of the "serious" skaters way. I used to find a corner and practice on my own.
    Yes of course they don't need to be a member of the club. However, they need to have a Skate Canada number in order to skate on any Skate Canada Club run ice.

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    Is that because of insurance in case they get hurt? Strange. Don't need a card to skate sessions (rec). Can get hurt there too.....Doesn't "skate at own risk" cover it legally?? (Maybe it's different in Canada.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondgirl View Post
    Is that because of insurance in case they get hurt? Strange. Don't need a card to skate sessions (rec). Can get hurt there too.....Doesn't "skate at own risk" cover it legally?? (Maybe it's different in Canada.)
    It's so you don't get hurt and sue Skate Canada. It's basic liability insurance. The clubs purchase insurance for the club as a whole as well as for each indivdual skater. The cost is included in your membership fee. There is also insurance for coaches, directors, and officials. If you are skating at a rec session you are not receiving lessons and therefore if you hurt yourself it is probably your fault and have no one else to blame (unless you collided with someone or something like that).

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    Here's a couple vids from tonight. The ice was terrible since they didn't even smooth it over prior to the session. Boo. I would have done more stuff if it wasn't so crowded...I had several near-misses with speeders on hockey skates. Then they kicked everyone off mid-session for the zamboni. It was a rush job and not even complete when people rushed right back onto a very wet rink. Everyone had trouble skating from that point. Meh. Hopefully we can try again next week at a different time when it's not so bad...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UojKSUZAb1A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07oLRz8uuDg

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    Nice spin!

    Wet rink. Yuch! (I've skated on those before. Nasty!) But your spin looked pretty good.

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