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    Influence of Japanese sponsors on Judging

    I'm sorry,,,,,,,,,,,,,but I've gotta say "wtfffffffffffffffffffff"
    Takahashi winning both sp and fs PCS? come on,,,u serious???W A joke!
    he fell like, what? five times???
    I seriously don't wanna see this again,,everrrrrrrrrrr.
    glad that Jonny at least got a medal.
    It's five right now,,, but I probably not gonna get a good sleep~soRRy guys~
    Last edited by Basics; 11-07-2009 at 06:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lySAcek View Post
    I'm sorry,,,,,,,,,,,,,but I've gotta say "wtfffffffffffffffffffff"
    Dakahashi winning both sp and fs PCS? come on,,,u serious???W A joke!
    he fell like,,,what,,five times???
    I seriously don't wanna see this again,,everrrrrrrrrrr.
    glad that Jonny at least got a medal.
    It's five right now,,, but I probably not gonna get a good sleep~soRRy guys~
    It is Takahashi. :-)

    I am sure he was penalized for his falls in his TES, if not PCS.

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    I think rest of the countries should also find sponsors for ISU, they could do with bit more of $s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life684 View Post
    I think rest of the countries should also find sponsors for ISU, they could do with bit more of $s.
    Vicious cycle, isn't it? No sponsors lead to less interest in figure skating, which drives even more sponsors away...

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    I´m glad to hear that Takahashi´s PCS was high in spite of TES, because that is exactly the way it should be, if correctly judged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lySAcek View Post
    I'm sorry,,,,,,,,,,,,,but I've gotta say "wtfffffffffffffffffffff"
    Dakahashi winning both sp and fs PCS? come on,,,u serious???W A joke!
    he fell like,,,what,,five times???
    I seriously don't wanna see this again,,everrrrrrrrrrr.
    glad that Jonny at least got a medal.
    It's five right now,,, but I probably not gonna get a good sleep~soRRy guys~
    I think Takahashi received the PCS that he did because he earned them, not, as you seem to be insinuating, because of the 'influence of Japanese sponsors on judging.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by chloepoco View Post
    I think Takahashi received the PCS that he did because he earned them, not, as you seem to be insinuating, because of the 'influence of Japanese sponsors on judging.'
    Besides, could the presence of those Japanese sponsors really influence the judging when the scores are submitted anonymously?

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    If that was the case somebody like Piseyev will surely find enough sponsors to ensure that his athletes bags at least 2 gold medals.

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    lySAcek, a slight OT:
    how did you come up with that funky user name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daihard View Post
    Besides, could the presence of those Japanese sponsors really influence the judging when the scores are submitted anonymously?
    Because the scores are submitted anonymoulsy we will never know.

    I did see what I thought were brand new Rolex watches on several of the judges

    Just kidding and everyone knows that is an old Juventus trick from the great Serie A

    Forza Inter

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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    Because the scores are submitted anonymoulsy we will never know.
    The flip side of the coin is that we will never know who wouldn't budge, either. Besides, what's the point of sucking up to someone if he doesn't know who it is?

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    Sucking up so obviously but not not sucking up hard enough to guarantee the podium? Judges are SMART! JK

    But seriously, don't be so paranoid and upset. It's all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daihard View Post
    The flip side of the coin is that we will never know who wouldn't budge, either. Besides, what's the point of sucking up to someone if he doesn't know who it is?
    Why would they "be budging" at all - what are you suggesting?

    I am just kidding - and was being very general - without a thought to Japanese, American, or any other sponsors.

    I just don't believe in anonymous voting at a sporting event unless it is necessary to hide something from the fans. Like a fair, unbiased result for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    Like a fair, unbiased result for instance.
    But does it exist at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsuhs View Post
    But does it exist at all?
    I am sure that many in figure skating are honest and trying to be fair and unbiased.

    But no matter how much you tweak a system, this is still a very subjective sport.

    Going back it in time it seems that there were also controversies over school figures and how they were judged with hints and complaints about favoritism.

    Some say figure skating is not a real sport like baseball.
    IMO, baseball is one of the most subjective sports in the world. The game is based on subjective calls by an umpire who can make or break a hitter or pitcher by the way he inteprets the strike zone. Close calls about base runners being safe or out can be subjective and are frequently hotly disputed.

    I can say the same about football/soccer which depends on subjective rulings by an official and linesmen which are often shown to be wrong on replay. Offsides calls, redcards, and of course the dreaded penalty shot often determine the outcome of a game and are not always correct.

    It is interesting that football/soccer is still resisting the use of instant replay, even in a limited manner. It is always voted down by the biggest and richest clubs in Europe because of one key factor: favoritism and calls they get based on their big reputations.

    Sorry if that got off-topic - but I think figure skating, even if everything and everybody involved at a specific event is as honest and unbiased as possible will still have some controversies over the marks and scores.

    It is just so subjective that I can't imagine it being any other way.

    Unfortunately, I belive there is still as much favoritism and judging by reputation as there ever was under 6.0.
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