At the same time, other casual fans like myself were going, "wow, that was awesome."
Good for you! :thumbsup:
At the same time, other casual fans like myself were going, "wow, that was awesome."
Yu na Kim skated beautiful but i dont think she earn some of the GOE she gone. They are too high. the jump are good but not that good.
Now that is just not fair to Carolina.
She has sacrificed so much in order to make this work again. She has given up her home, has moved continent, everything. She is working her a*** off over there. She is always very focused on practice and her work. Don't blame it on her relationship with Alex, cause that is just not fair, and more than that, just not true.
The only problem this girl has is her confidence. She has perfect run-throughs in practice, perfect warm-ups, and 15 minutes later she just cannot show the judges that. To me, that looks more like she just doesn't feel comfortable in competition.
so is it you who did that ridiculous thing??
actually I think she rotated 3 but you guys insist saying 2.75, so I found another who you thought rotated 3 but actually rotated 2.5:chorus:
anyway it's true that someone did get +GOE for not fully rotating, but I think it's OK for that whether she rotated or not would not affect the final results~
What are you talking about??? When I said "Must I post," I didn't mean that "I posted it," but I meant it as that people shouldn't bicker over these skaters about their rotations in such disrespectful manners. I really think that when people say Yuna is underrotated, then there are also many other skaters who underrotate even more and still receive full creditds. That's all. And if you think her jumps are not that good or often underrorated, then I can certainly tell you that your favorite skater, who I think it is, definitely does not jump better.
Seriously, some people have problems.... sigh.
Yu na Kim skated beautiful but i dont think she earn some of the GOE she gone. They are too high. the jump are good but not that good.
That's a point of view. I think both Mao and Yuna never got overscored. Maybe a little bit, but nothing big certainly. But the important thing is that they judge them equally.And dare I say it, her LP was overscored. I thought Mao was ovescored a couple of season's back when she didn't attempt one of her jump element & I apply that same rubric to Yu-na's program today.
It's just a thought because she looked like a completely different skater overnight.
I'm sure she works a** off because every other world-class skater does too.
But how can you be sure that her relationship negatively affecting her performance is "just not true"? Even Carolina herself cannot be sure of that. When you begin or end a personal relationship, it's got to influence anyone's performance one way or another. It cannot have "zero effect" whatsoever. Carolina, like all of us, is a human being, you know.
Sorry for misunderstood your original words, coz it sounded like you were so familiar with that kind of thing......:scratch:What are you talking about??? When I said "Must I post," I didn't mean that "I posted it," but I meant it as that people shouldn't bicker over these skaters about their rotations in such disrespectful manners. I really think that when people say Yuna is underrotated, then there are also many other skaters who underrotate even more and still receive full credits. That's all. You don't have to make it sound like there's a huge conspiracy behind these scores, which I think is completely preposterous. And if you think her jumps are not that good or often underrorated, then I can certainly tell you that your favorite skater, who I think it is, definitely does not jump better.
I like Yu-na's SP a lot more than her free as well. But her "Danse Macabre" was just a total masterpiece. I guess I'm old skool & feel that her Bond girl is just too light for the Olympics. I'm not saying that everything has to be deep & classical, but I dunno...Yu-na's programs for this season have sort of have been a let down for me. And dare I say it, her LP was overscored. I thought Mao was ovescored a couple of season's back when she didn't attempt one of her jump element & I apply that same rubric to Yu-na's program today. GOEs shouldn't hold her enough to her break own her record at Worlds with a missed jump element & weak spiral sequence compared to her vastly improved one in the Bond program. Sigh. I guess I have high standards for Yu-na....
This kind of thing has come up A LOT ever since the Mao/Yuna rivalry started to develop. All I have to say is that everything is relative. First of all, if a jump is close to rotated (rotated means no more than 1/4 revolutions under-rotated), it is usually ratified. Sure, some of Yuna's jumps may be a bit more under-rotated than 1/4 revolutions. But other skaters (all skaters) get the benefit of this leeway too. It's not just Yuna.
Also, the ANGLE at which you watch the jumps makes a HUGE difference. A fully-rotated jump may look under-rotated if you look at it from a different angle.
Unless it's an obvious under-rotation (like 1/2 revolutions), you know, with a lot of the 3-3 combinations from Kimmie, I don't think it's worth posting ridiculous videos with lines and stuff on them. I'm not just saying this to Mao fans, Yuna fans also do this too I'm sure.
Let's get past things like this and look beyond it.
I think you misunderstood what I wrote. Someone posted a youtube link, that "allegedly" shows that yuna's jump was underrotated, and I was upset and was criticizing. I really honestly think that it's pointless that people would make such ridiculous videos, especially of someone like yuna, who jumps just like textbook style... Amazingly beautifully.
I like Yu-na's SP a lot more than her free as well. But her "Danse Macabre" was just a total masterpiece. I guess I'm old skool & feel that her Bond girl is just too light for the Olympics. I'm not saying that everything has to be deep & classical, but I dunno...Yu-na's programs for this season have sort of have been a let down for me. And dare I say it, her LP was overscored. I thought Mao was ovescored a couple of season's back when she didn't attempt one of her jump element & I apply that same rubric to Yu-na's program today. GOEs shouldn't hold her enough to her break own her record at Worlds with a missed jump element & weak spiral sequence compared to her vastly improved one in the Bond program. Sigh. I guess I have high standards for Yu-na....
I have a question about her spiral sequence.
Aesthetically, hers is definitely not the most pleasing one.
I think her stretch has improved a lot, but that free leg wobbles a bit too much for a top skater, and it seems bent at the knee, too.
Is that related to her back problems at all?
Also I've heard and read many times to know by now that it's the change of edges, speed, and ice coverage, etc that determine the score, not the free leg position.
So in terms of that, how does her spiral sequence really rate?
On one hand, I hear she is excellent in those qualities, and on the other, some people complain about her "weak" SS.
So which is it??
Can someone answer? Thank you.
Sorry for misunderstood your original words, coz it sounded like you were so familiar with that kind of thing......:scratch:
I DON'T think Yuna's jumps were often underrotated, actually none of her jumps had ever been underrotated by judges except those she failed.
I have no doubt about how your feelings towards other skaters, since you are so supportive for Yuna, how can you credit others jumps without bias......