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    Quote Originally Posted by bmelanie View Post
    I suppose you could look at it like that though I always feel you don't need to be an expert in order to enjoy skating. I think here Yuna's attempting to make people see that there's more to skating than just doing one jump after another, there's all sorts of things you can do in between elements. It's a daring choice really, for a girl who's always been lauded as a great performer - she's going for the sophisticated and rather than the flashy, and that's not an easy choice to make, especially in an olympic season.
    I see, so obviously she and her team are that confident.
    And I would think that Brian Orser, having missed out on that illusive Olympic gold twice, could've easily gone for the all-out drama and spectacle and left no stone unturned for both the judges and audiences alike, but he didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figurejennah View Post
    I am sorry to say, but this is just ridiculous.
    Must I post a video clip of a skater who attempts to do a TA,
    only rotates 2.75, and lands and receives full credit?

    All the commentators around the globe praise yuna for her amazing
    jumps, saying that her speed going into the jumps are amazing, and
    she jumps like a man. It's truly a rare quality that she can jump so high
    and far, and lands with a full rotation. I can't believe that
    there are video clips like this on youtube already.
    Seriously, some people need to do something better with their time than this.
    so is it you who did that ridiculous thing??
    actually I think she rotated 3 but you guys insist saying 2.75, so I found another who you thought rotated 3 but actually rotated 2.5:chorus:

    anyway it's true that someone did get +GOE for not fully rotating, but I think it's OK for that whether she rotated or not would not affect the final results~

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    Tarasova has ruined Mao. I do not understand their music choices or concepts for her programs. They do not suit her or play to her strengths....she needs a change ASAP!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.D. View Post
    Some of the other Gp events, even with lesser fields, might be more exciting because the scores might be closer.
    ladies has always been a snoozefest as far as I'm concerned. this event was no exception...

    give me the men and the ice dance (and even pairs!) any day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel5555 View Post
    GUYS, please.
    Let's think logically. At worlds she got 207.71 points, ok? Here she got 210.03. Where she got inflated scores if she CLEARLY improved?

    And remember the situation at Worlds. I understand your concerns about margins, but don't make it look like something that is not. If she got inflated score, she got ones at the Worlds and at 4CC then. Please, don't be rude. Stay calm, stay cool, and if you like other skaters more than Yuna, support them instead of scolding. Please.

    Plus, at Worlds, Yu-Na popped 3S and her last spin element was counted zero, yet was still able to pull out 207.71. Today, she missed 3F and got zero point and received 210.03. IMO, her score is far from inflated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skate4ever View Post
    At the same time, other casual fans like myself were going, "wow, that was awesome."
    Good for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovani2293 View Post
    Yu na Kim skated beautiful but i dont think she earn some of the GOE she gone. They are too high. the jump are good but not that good.
    As long as Yuna skated clean, it dosen't matter how much +GOE she got, she'll win, no doubt

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiggs View Post
    Now that is just not fair to Carolina.
    She has sacrificed so much in order to make this work again. She has given up her home, has moved continent, everything. She is working her a*** off over there. She is always very focused on practice and her work. Don't blame it on her relationship with Alex, cause that is just not fair, and more than that, just not true.

    The only problem this girl has is her confidence. She has perfect run-throughs in practice, perfect warm-ups, and 15 minutes later she just cannot show the judges that. To me, that looks more like she just doesn't feel comfortable in competition.
    It's just a thought because she looked like a completely different skater overnight.
    I'm sure she works her a** off because every other world-class skater does too.
    But how can you be sure that her relationship negatively affecting her performance is "just not true"? Even Carolina herself cannot be sure of that. When you begin or end a personal relationship, it's got to influence anyone's performance one way or another. It cannot have "zero effect" whatsoever. Carolina, like all of us, is a human being, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harmy18 View Post
    so is it you who did that ridiculous thing??
    actually I think she rotated 3 but you guys insist saying 2.75, so I found another who you thought rotated 3 but actually rotated 2.5:chorus:

    anyway it's true that someone did get +GOE for not fully rotating, but I think it's OK for that whether she rotated or not would not affect the final results~

    What are you talking about??? When I said "Must I post," I didn't mean that "I posted it," but I meant it as that people shouldn't bicker over these skaters about their rotations in such disrespectful manners. I really think that when people say Yuna is underrotated, then there are also many other skaters who underrotate even more and still receive full credits. That's all. You don't have to make it sound like there's a huge conspiracy behind yuna's scores, which I think is completely preposterous. And if you think her jumps are not that good or often underrorated, then I can certainly tell you that your favorite skater, who I think it is, definitely does not jump better.

    Seriously, some people have problems.... sigh.
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    I like Yu-na's SP a lot more than her free as well. But her "Danse Macabre" was just a total masterpiece. I guess I'm old skool & feel that her Bond girl is just too light for the Olympics. I'm not saying that everything has to be deep & classical, but I dunno...Yu-na's programs for this season have sort of have been a let down for me. And dare I say it, her LP was overscored. I thought Mao was ovescored a couple of season's back when she didn't attempt one of her jump element & I apply that same rubric to Yu-na's program today. GOEs shouldn't hold her enough to her break own her record at Worlds with a missed jump element & weak spiral sequence compared to her vastly improved one in the Bond program. Sigh. I guess I have high standards for Yu-na....

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    just a reminder - ignoring the bad works a whole lot more than responding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figurejennah View Post
    What are you talking about??? When I said "Must I post," I didn't mean that "I posted it," but I meant it as that people shouldn't bicker over these skaters about their rotations in such disrespectful manners. I really think that when people say Yuna is underrotated, then there are also many other skaters who underrotate even more and still receive full creditds. That's all. And if you think her jumps are not that good or often underrorated, then I can certainly tell you that your favorite skater, who I think it is, definitely does not jump better.

    Seriously, some people have problems.... sigh.
    This kind of thing has come up A LOT ever since the Mao/Yuna rivalry started to develop. All I have to say is that everything is relative. First of all, if a jump is close to rotated (rotated means no more than 1/4 revolutions under-rotated), it is usually ratified. Sure, some of Yuna's jumps may be a bit more under-rotated than 1/4 revolutions. But other skaters (all skaters) get the benefit of this leeway too. It's not just Yuna.

    Also, the ANGLE at which you watch the jumps makes a HUGE difference. A fully-rotated jump may look under-rotated if you look at it from a different angle.

    Unless it's an obvious under-rotation (like 1/2 revolutions), you know, with a lot of the 3-3 combinations from Kimmie, I don't think it's worth posting ridiculous videos with lines and stuff on them. I'm not just saying this to Mao fans, Yuna fans also do this too I'm sure.

    Let's get past things like this and look beyond it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jovani2293 View Post
    Yu na Kim skated beautiful but i dont think she earn some of the GOE she gone. They are too high. the jump are good but not that good.
    I definitely agree with you. Her jumps her nice and high, but given everything else in her program, the GOE is just ridiculous.
    I liked her much better last year!

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    Also keep in mind... That Yuna skated very light, very joyful. She skated herself this time and I clearly saw this. That also deserves some extra points.

    camion
    And dare I say it, her LP was overscored. I thought Mao was ovescored a couple of season's back when she didn't attempt one of her jump element & I apply that same rubric to Yu-na's program today.
    That's a point of view. I think both Mao and Yuna never got overscored. Maybe a little bit, but nothing big certainly. But the important thing is that they judge them equally.

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    That rotation discussion is ridiculous. It's very hard to determine the exact rotation. But I believe that experts who are the judges know how to do it better than we. So please, don't post some YouTube idiocy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skate4ever View Post
    It's just a thought because she looked like a completely different skater overnight.
    I'm sure she works a** off because every other world-class skater does too.
    But how can you be sure that her relationship negatively affecting her performance is "just not true"? Even Carolina herself cannot be sure of that. When you begin or end a personal relationship, it's got to influence anyone's performance one way or another. It cannot have "zero effect" whatsoever. Carolina, like all of us, is a human being, you know.
    Well, I happen to know them personally and those 2 have been dating for a long time. I guess I got upset at your post because I know that Carolina doesn't let herself get affected by such factors. The problems she has in competition right now have different roots. She is a headcase, putting herself under way too much pressure and it really hurts seeing her doing that to herself.

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