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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post
    You cannot be Queen without the haters. All the great queens had them. It comes with the territory.
    I understand if these postings are only a few, but more than 20% of daily uploads under her name? And almost none of these postings are even about skating.
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    Please, don't start it.
    I'll copy what I already said on another forum:

    Honestly I don't understand, what's the point in creating such threads? We all know what happens, we all have seen this a lot of times. Some time ago I went in some little research about this topic and you can't imagine what kind of ###### I found. It's so hateful, that it's ridiculous. But what I wouldn't do is create a thread about every thing I found, because that would do no good to anyone.

    The person who created that video is not Japanese or Chinese because coward bastards like those people have no nation. And you will do best if you won't pay attention to it. Think about Yuna sometimes. She knows about this forum, maybe she reads it too, do you think she will be glad to see us talking about this trash?

    So really, forget about it.

    YouTube is a kind of stupid website. They remove figure skating videos and innocent music video clips created by amateurs, but you can easily find videos where people are being killed and tons of other ######. If you want to do something, flag that video and write in the form that it's a worst kind of slandering. But don't expect something, no matter how much flagged the video is, that doesn't matter, so if the "human being", as they call him, thinks that it's ok it won't be removed. There are ways to act in that case, but I won't write them directly here.
    If it's possible, close this thread.

    You cannot be Queen without the haters. All the great queens had them. It comes with the territory.
    I can't agree with this, but let it be...

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    If you post youtube videos, one of your options to not allow any comments. That's what I will be doing in future. And when I turn to other posters videos, it is very easy to go full screen immediately, which blocks the comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shallwedansu View Post
    And what exactly is so hard about IGNORING IT?? Be the better person and just ignore it.
    I hardly see how ignoring it is the answer. It is really terrible to see these girls (or any athletes for that matter) ridiculed and criticized with cruel, offensive, even racial comments by idiots around the world who do nothing with their lives. It's sad. I don't know what the answer is though. I wish youtube controlled its user comments more and did better to ban those members who abuse the privilege of watching such talent on youtube.

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    hmmm

    I always thought about this, but I really think that a certain skater's "some" fans are just so overwhelmingly crazy and protective of their beloved skater that they do not hesitate to go ahead tn bash out the other "rival" skater.

    These fans accuse that yuna's fans are crazy, yuna is over-scored, and blah blah... always blame yuna's fans for being "crazy." But in fact as we can see on youtube, you don't see these incredibly hateful videos of Mao. Do you see videos that talk about "Japan's dirty money, Mao has done plastic surgery," etc videos being uploaded nonstop on youtube?

    Some of you say "just ignore" these videos, but even on this forum, I think I read some disrespectful comments about certain skaters, and maybe we ourselves first should change. Posting these ridiculous videos is definitely a cyber terror, and we should all realize that if this continues against Yuna, this ugly rivary will continue. For example, who knows, you might see video clips of Mao's new nose job. :(
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    I believe that the problems are basically two:
    - The Olimpidas exaggerates the nationalistic feelings, and although you like a certain skater, you will always want that your country takes a medal. Also, the newspapers and the tv feed these feelings to have more public, and during the Olympic year there are many followers who are not fans of the skating.
    -The two maximum candidates to the olympic gold are from countries that "hate" one to other. Although the relations between Korea and Japan have improved very much in the last years, it is a tense relation where there is great resentment.

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    Isn't there some sort of Code of Conduct that applies to the YouTube posts? Doesn't this sort of behavior violate some sort of general rule? I think this would be something to look at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper View Post
    I hardly see how ignoring it is the answer. It is really terrible to see these girls (or any athletes for that matter) ridiculed and criticized with cruel, offensive, even racial comments by idiots around the world who do nothing with their lives. It's sad. I don't know what the answer is though. I wish youtube controlled its user comments more and did better to ban those members who abuse the privilege of watching such talent on youtube.
    would you say the same of the posters who said horrible things about Bush (and now the other side on Obama?), how about the hateful things on certain football players? or are we just into protecting ladies in figure skating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    would you say the same of the posters who said horrible things about Bush (and now the other side on Obama?), how about the hateful things on certain football players? or are we just into protecting ladies in figure skating?
    Quoting myself:
    "It is really terrible to see these girls (or any athletes for that matter)..."

    So no, I'm not just talking about figure skating. I was talking about all athletes. Politicians... well with them it's at least slightly different. Politicians by nature are supposed to be representing the people and making changes for the people. It is more justifiable for them to be criticized by the people because of their line of work. But that's not to say that verbal harassment on youtube is acceptable in any form.

    But no, I refuse to believe that ignoring a problem is ever the best solution. Perhaps the maker of this thread should contact the higher-ups at youtube and try to have users banned who don't abide by the rules of conduct. But it's a hard thing to control, especially seeing as certain people and certain athletes in particular inspire unbelievable amounts of hatred. I know the Williams sisters do in women's tennis, and that is visible on youtube and other "chat" and video websites, and now it seems Kim in ladies' figure skating?! It's all a bit surreal to me. There are definitely athletes who I root against at times, but there's a limit to what should be said.

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    Well, there's this thing....it's called freedom of speech. It's a great thing, really, but the often frustrating thing about it is that in a medium of expression as open-ended as the Internet, malicious idiots too have the freedom to hold opinions without interference--no matter how stupid--and have the right to express them. Now, I think the "Yu-Na has plastic surgery" videos and their ilk are asinine and are a waste of bandwith, but I'd say that about many other things, including the "Skater X is a cheater who interfered with Skater Y in her warmup" videos. And videos of people farting. Or videos that say things like "Obama is a socialist Muslim who was born in Africa"

    But just because I think they're stupid doesn't mean they should be removed from the Internet.

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    I just watch the video clips, don't bother reading the posts.....

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    And again, if you post clips, don't allow comments. It's one of your options.

    I had 2 videos that we took of Liberty a couple years ago of Rachael Flatt's programs. They were defaced with nasty comments about Rachael Flatt, and I had to reload the videos. I was very glad to see youtube offering a 'no comments' option.

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    All I can say is, throughout my 15 years of being a figure skating fan I've not really heard of any outright country-specific bashing. Either you are overreacting, or there must be something very special about Korea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
    All I can say is, throughout my 15 years of being a figure skating fan I've not really heard of any outright country-specific bashing. Either you are overreacting, or there must be something very special about Korea!
    Yes, either there's something very special about Korea, or there's something very completely messed up with these fans who would upload these bashing videos against Yuna and Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    If you post youtube videos, one of your options to not allow any comments. That's what I will be doing in future. And when I turn to other posters videos, it is very easy to go full screen immediately, which blocks the comments.
    Yes, I agree, and I think this is really all that needs to be said on this matter.

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