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    News 2009 Rostelecom Cup of Russia Preview

    The 2009-10 ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating continues this week in Moscow, Russia with the Rostelecom Cup. More...

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    Little is known about the progress of the 2007 Junior World silver medalists, but an invitation to this event speaks volumes about their federation's confidence in them as a team. As such, Bazarova and Larionov are the dark horses in this event, and could surprise everyone with a medal winning performance in their home country.
    This is not quite true. They competed in the Russia Cup in Perm and Samara and won both events in dominating fashion. You can see their skates from the Russia Cup in Perm on YT. Their FS is particularly impressive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIdelTyw7MY

    They scored 57.14 in the SP, 113.36 in the LP and 170.50 overall. They did 3FTh, 3LoTh, 2A+2A, 3Twist and a 3T (in both programs, but Vera had a hand down in the LP and a messy landing in the SP). If they skate like they did in Perm, I agree that they can certainly contend for a medal. Their time off has especially improved him, now he looks elegant enough to match her. They have certainly proven themselves worthy of the assignment.
    Last edited by oleada; 10-18-2009 at 03:50 PM.

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    I am most excited to see Plushenko back in the competition.
    Good luck to all the skaters!

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    Wow, JR has Czisny behind Wagner, Leonova, McCorkel and Sebestyen.

    I hope he is wrong.

    I think Kozuka will beat Plushenko and Weir will finish ahead of Mroz.

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    Just as Rippon pleasantly surprised us making the podium at TEB, I look for Mroz to do the same in Russia. USA needs to look to the future and in men's skating that means Rippon and Mroz.

    On the other hand I think Alissa is overdue for a good skate and will win a medal next weekend. She has the talent and if she can keep it together she can make the podium.

    Plushy has looked very rough to me so far and like Joubert, if he doesn't land most of his jumps he may find himself off the podium. But I wouldn't be surprised in he skates well considering his abilty to rise to the occassion at competitions.

    Go Alissa, Go Brandon. And let's hope Johnny is happy with his costume.

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    Wow, JR has Czisny behind Wagner, Leonova, McCorkel and Sebestyen.
    Ouch. That's harsh. I think she'll at least be able to beat those last two skaters! She's woefully inconsistent, but still capable of beating people even with several mistakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by oleada View Post
    This is not quite true. They competed in the Russia Cup in Perm and Samara and won both events in dominating fashion. You can see their skates from the Russia Cup in Perm on YT. Their FS is particularly impressive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIdelTyw7MY
    Thanks for the link to the video, I had no idea this competition existed. I guess most of the Russian notables skipped this event? I'm impressed by the elements Bazarova and Larionov are attempting considering all the time they've been out of competition. They only seem to have problems with 2 of the major elements. I think their skating is a bit dull and uninspired and they lack connection to each other and the music, but they are still quite young and maybe could develop that later on. I think I like them better than Iliushechkina/Maisuradze. On another note, I want to give her a hamburger. She looks much taller than I remember her, but wow, she is a toothpick.
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    Russian Cups are a series of figure skating competitions. There's usually 4 over the fall season and the final in the spring. Usually the big name skaters either don't do them or just do one event. It's a good launching pad for junior skaters - for example, Elena Ilinkyh/Nikita Katsalapov won the Russia Cup Final in Junior Dance last year, and this year they won two JGP events; Adelina Sotnikova won the event in Moscow last year, and then won Senior and Junior Nationals. It's a great place to discover new talents; and it's a good place for higher profile skaters to receive feedback. Also, IIRC, you qualify for Nationals if you place well enough (I might be totally wrong on this one - a Russian poster might correct me as my Russian is pretty darn poor :o).

    B/L didn't have much competiton at either event, but I imagine they wanted to compete as much as they could before Rostelecom Cup.

    I love both I/M and B/L, but B/L just a bit more. I love, love, love the second lift - it's gorgeous and goes along with the music perfectly. I think that was a really good performance for them considering they haven't competed in a long time. It really builds throughout the performance.
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    I read this article ealier, and thus far this Elvin Walker (btw I truly do enjoy his articles & analyses) has only got one prediction right, that of the Ladies at TEB. The other three disciplines he was totally off.

    So we shall see how close he comes to his predictions at COR. Will he once again predict the exact outcome of the Ladies? or will he strike out in all the disciplines? Only time will tell...

    Where is that crystal ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    Plushy has looked very rough to me so far and like Joubert, if he doesn't land most of his jumps he may find himself off the podium. But I wouldn't be surprised in he skates well considering his abilty to rise to the occassion at competitions.
    Well there is that, if there is something Evgeni can do, is skate well when it counts.

    Johnny's free skate "Fallen Angels" is from the performance he did with Denis and Melissa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I think Kozuka will beat Plushenko and Weir will finish ahead of Mroz.
    oh no, not AND you!

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    This is not quite true. They competed in the Russia Cup in Perm and Samara and won both events in dominating fashion.
    The problem is that the Russia Cup events are not international events and the rest of the world get's very little info from these I believe what JR was trying to say was that little is known on the "international" progress of this team in terms of where they stand against the rest of the competitors.

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    Thanks for the preview, In the ladies Miki Ando's program looks awesome and Nikolai seems to have prepared her well just like he did with Shizuka in 2005/06. The favourite for me, but watch out for Alena Leonova she has so much confidence at the moment and I think will get the silver, Asada (well, either up and down at the moment and like TEB somewhere in between). I wouldn't be surprised if she dumps the LP after the grand prize, she should go with something more lyrical!!. Asada will re-group in time for the grand prix final and Nationals. Alissa Czisny is the dark horse, she is the best of the americans and her mask of zorro SP is already the package to score 60+.

    Ladies picks:
    1) Ando
    2) Leonova
    3) Asada
    4) Czisny

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    Sadly, Alissa Czisny is not the dark horse, but the Trojan horse of US Figure Skating.

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    I think Rublev/Shefer will be considerably higher than the GS prediction. They were marked way too low in the CD at TEB last week; it was rather a scandal in Russian quarters, as judges placed them behind Gorshkova/Butikov. I think they will be 2nd or 3rd here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nylynnr View Post
    They were marked way too low in the CD at TEB last week; it was rather a scandal in Russian quarters, as judges placed them behind Gorshkova/Butikov.
    A scandal? Really? When they still kicked the *censored* of everyone, G&B included, below Samuelson and Bates, in the OD and FD, and beat the last in both segments too?(Which would be an indication in itself that they could do very well here indeed.)

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