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    Quote Originally Posted by R.D. View Post
    Asada needs to stop trying the 3A in the short- seriously.
    She just needs to not try it as a combination...

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    Quote Originally Posted by beep_beep View Post
    The Requiem she did at exhibition looked a lot more sophisticated and un-morozoved
    I sense the birth of a new concept in skating - morozoving a program. Example: "Sasha's Moonlight Sonata exhibition was such a brilliant program, but then it got morozoved!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by krenseby View Post
    I sense the birth of a new concept in skating - morozoving a program. Example: "Sasha's Moonlight Sonata exception was such a brilliant program, but then it got morozoved!"

    Well, it is not totally wrong after all..

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    There is also the concept of morozoved costumes

    Miki's sp 08-09
    Miki-Carmen
    Daisuke's R&J
    Oda's SP 08-09
    Fumie SP (?) 08-09 I know he brough her jumps back but I hated that he, well, morozoved her skating
    Adam Rippon poor kid had to have the hair straighthened

    Bashing aside, I got to hand him that he knows how to bring skaters back from the dead. It doesn't make me like him, but still...

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    mao's problem is that she has become a one-trick pony and the judes aren't buying it. She has bet it all on landing 3 triple axles per competiton and if she dosen't then she has nothing to fall back on. I feel like she should not give up on the triple axel in the short yet. She has been doing them so effortlessly I know that she is capable of landing to easily, she just needs to stop the head games. Skating is 90% mental and Mao is in a bad place mentally right now.

    For the SP she should do
    3 axel/ 2 toe

    3 flip

    2 axel

    For the Freeskate:

    3 axel/ 2 toe

    3 lutz

    3 flip/3 loop

    2 axel

    3 loop/2loop/2loop

    3 flip

    3 toe

    2 axel/2 loop

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    There's no point in doing the Axel in combination in the SP (nor the LP, for that matter, if she is only going to do 1 of them). She would get so many more points by adding a Triple onto the end of her Flip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schiele View Post

    Well, it is not totally wrong after all..
    BTW, the word there should have been "exhibition" and not "exception.""

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwanford Wife View Post
    I couldn't agree more... we've seen meltdowns before and those skaters turn it around quickly and go on to great seasons... we've also seen TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION - in October - and TOTAL WORLD DISASTER - in February. Its almost a part of the Olympic tradition.

    I do hope, however, that Mao's issues are mental and not physical. Pressure can do wonders for an athlete after a series of missteps. But if she has a physical issue (ie - injury or another growth spurt) this might affect her chances in Vancouver to compete.

    Granted, if she comes back strong tomorrow and wins the whole thing, this obsessive hand wringing will quickly change into "heart of a champion" and "TAT's a genius!!" rather quickly. That's also become apart of the Olympic tradition - fans and their fickle opinions!
    Lol, Kwanford Wife you've got me pegged!

    Still, in all honesty, I'm going to have to write Mao Asada off. Believe me, it pangs me, but she (like Tonya & so many others) just doesn't have what it takes to be an Olympic Champion, number #1 mental toughness.

    Except for Julia Sebestian, everybody else was blah in my opinion.

    The only ones I've loved straight from the get-go is #1 Yuna Kim & Yukari Nakano & Caroline Zhang.

    I'm a figure skating fan first & foremost, so I bow to those aforementioned superior performances that left me with a visceral reaction right from the get go!

    And what a joy it was to see Julia back & honestly better than ever......she looks like a young girl out there......her jumps always reminded me of Irina Slutskaya & still do ~ superior to everybody else's!!!!!!!!!!!

    I hope Julia wins, she deserves it.

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    The Americans & everybody else now have a realistic shot at silver & bronze at the Olympics ~ YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    COME BACK, SASHA COHEN, COME BACK!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadine View Post
    The Americans & everybody else now have a realistic shot at silver & bronze at the Olympics ~ YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Not so fast!! It's a nice thought, but it's only October. Virtually no indication of what will happen in February. Did anyone seriously predict Asada off the WP last year??

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    Thank you, calica.

    I'm curious to see Julia's SP if anyone has a link.

    I rather like Miki's costume.

    I am at a loss of words for Mao. This is a girl who has performed programs to perfection; a few times she fell hard, and she still would fight her way back into a flawless recovery. She doesn't have the confidence anymore to commit to her jumps.

    Every question, every speculation, and every idea as to how to fix things has already been said so I won't say anymore. But I do want to point out that I don't get the impression that Tat is as cruel or hard as some believe. She has a tough exterior and a strong character (and I have no doubt she is a demanding coach) but I do believe she cares for her pupil. If there was the possibility Mao's previous coach did want to continue to coach her part-time and put his reputation on the line, well it seems Tat is at least willing to do that; and in the K&C area she made a fist as if to say "be strong, Mao" and patted her on the back. I am not sure that Tat is the right coach for Mao at this time (just as I'm not sure if Mao should be worrying about or even incorporating the 3axel into any of her programs right now), but I do believe her intentions are not as "evil" as they appear, nor would I put all fault in her.

    I really want Mao to take out all 3axels, get back on her basics, find some steady ground and rebuild. When she's back, Tat and 3axels may really begin to work their thing.

    Having said that, I still think Mao's skating and fluidity was the nicest to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwanford Wife View Post
    Granted, if [Mao] comes back strong tomorrow and wins the whole thing, this obsessive hand wringing will quickly change into "heart of a champion" and "TAT's a genius!!" rather quickly. That's also become apart of the Olympic tradition - fans and their fickle opinions!
    :chorus:

    The crazy thing is I totally see it happening

    But in all seriousness, if she wants to contend for an OGM she needs to desperately do something about the SP. Kim proved that Gold can potentially be won on the SP portion, leaving everyone else fighting for scraps. :indiff: Can't predict if The Great Equalizer will rear its head, causing Kim to fall and crash back down to earth, so can't take anything for granted.
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    I'm entitled to my opinion, RD, and I go with my gut instinct!

    I've been watching & loving this beautiful sport of figure skating since I was a mere kid/child, having watched Dorothy Hamill win her Olympic Gold Medal in 1976. Nothing's changed, I'm still that kid at heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadine View Post
    I'm entitled to my opinion, RD, and I go with my gut instinct!
    let's hope your "gut instinct" is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadine View Post
    I'm entitled to my opinion, RD, and I go with my gut instinct!

    I've been watching & loving this beautiful sport of figure skating since I was a mere kid/child, having watched Dorothy Hamill win her Olympic Gold Medal in 1976. Nothing's changed, I'm still that kid at heart.
    After seeing so much mediocre skating at the two GP's Sasha may have been given a shot in the arm. If she has anything left jumpwise Sasha could have done well in Paris and very well in Russia. It appears 3-4 triples is all you need today to make the Ladies podium. Sasha always had more than that even on an off day.
    Last edited by janetfan; 10-23-2009 at 06:53 PM.

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