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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdongxie View Post
    They DIDN'T do quad this time.
    I saw 4S. What are you watching!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enlight78 View Post
    M/B got bronze but lost by 30 pts ouch
    Yeah, it was a rough skate, but the bright side is that they have a lot they can improve on. They didn't look quite comfortable with the program yet, parts were slow. It was their first competition... They didn't get to do any summer competitions like they usually do, and maybe that affected them. Their throws seemed off. The first throw looked like it had too much rotation and the second throw looked like it didn't have enough. They can figure that out. They have a while until SA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxade21 View Post
    I saw 4S. What are you watching!
    So you should check your eyes... See the details [url]http://www.isuresults.com/results/gprus09/gprus09_Pairs_FS_Scores.pdf[/url]

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    Huge congratulations to Pang and Tong! The pairs competition is getting more and more excited this season, with the door wide open to multiple couples. Can't wait to see Shen and Zhao next week!

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    Tweet from Keuna:" Woooww rough skate- Rock was my rock. Now back to the drawing board.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxade21 View Post
    I saw 4S. What are you watching!
    it seems she opened up quad into triple. second time watching, that was a quad attempt.
    Make up ur own decision
    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsXep2cio14[/url]
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    K/S LP: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DH4dVjWuJc[/url]

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    Alright, my impressions of the Top Five after watching them on the big screen.

    Nicole DELLA MONICA / Yannick KOCON
    Great and secure sbs jumps, that was really impressive, the Triple Salchow was big, with fantastic flow. The throw jumps have slightly above average quality, good flow, but not much height.
    Both seem to have good skating skills, lots of speed and power and they kept moving throughout the program.
    But the lifts and the twist are seriously scary. He needs to beef up and pronto, please!
    And why is France selling all their good male skaters to Italy, is that a deal with Speedy - two good skaters in exchange for icedance-gold?

    Vera BAZAROVA / Yuri LARIONOV
    She has had a year without competitions and those sbs jumps kind of got worse during that time? She wasn't even close to landing anything clean or fully rotated. And give her something to eat.
    They had zero connection to the music.
    Apart from that, good Russian pair qualities, nice throws and twist - sublime unison on the sbs spins.

    Keauna MCLAUGHLIN / Rockne BRUBAKER
    I hope she gets her act together, I like them very much as a pair. But worst case scenario: is there somewhere in the US a small female pair skater who could skate with him, in case she doesn't get her act together?
    They have great style, good speed (though somewhat frantic stroking), there is something lively about them that I often miss with younger Russian or Chinese pairs. His jumps look big and solid - hers unfortunately don't. Their lifts seem to have somehow regressed since last season, but that could very well be explained as early-in-the-season-problems.

    Yuko KAVAGUTI / Alexander SMIRNOV
    I adore them. One of my sentimental favourites. And they did a decent job today, some weaknesses here and there, a bit sloppy at times. The interpretation was good, too.
    My problem is the program. Not the music, I like that too. But all the elements in the program are recycled from last season's program.
    And yes, everybody does that. But since this is Moskvina, it's just really noticeable. They have all these unique lifts - but unfortunately the uniqueness gets old after 3 seasons with the same unique lifts.
    The structure is also not good. All those lifts towards the end, all the throw elements are done in the first half. I want more creativity.

    Qing PANG / Jian TONG
    Also sentimental favourites. And they have gorgeous costumes. I still can't believe it. How did that happen? Hers is especially beautiful.
    The skate was good, I enjoy the music, the structure of the program is good. Nothing overly spectacular, but a good first outing.
    I just hope they can keep this form till February. The last two seasons they were always great throughout the season, until and including 4CC - and then they tanked at Worlds. Since the Olympics is about at the same time as 4CC was during the last years - they might actually be a gold medal threat at the Olympics.
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    PANG/ TONG

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    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1wxHOz6fPc&feature=related[/url]
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    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIc2lOuEGZU[/url]

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    Keauna MCLAUGHLIN / Rockne BRUBAKER
    Both SP and LP have great potential. I like the music cut and the choreography. Love love their speed & ice coverage, spins and lifts. IMHO, they're the fastest pair out there.


    Yuko KAVAGUTI / Alexander SMIRNOV
    Qing PANG / Jian TONG

    Both teams are very sloooow and have the ugliest lift positions.

    To be honest, which of Yuko/Alexander's big trick elements is of high quality? I can't find any. I don't know why there's not any downgrade on 3twist. This team and D/D are no where near to get 3 rotations in air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    Keauna MCLAUGHLIN / Rockne BRUBAKER
    I hope she gets her act together, I like them very much as a pair. But worst case scenario: is there somewhere in the US a small female pair skater who could skate with him, in case she doesn't get her act together?
    They have great style, good speed (though somewhat frantic stroking), there is something lively about them that I often miss with younger Russian or Chinese pairs. His jumps look big and solid - hers unfortunately don't. Their lifts seem to have somehow regressed since last season, but that could very well be explained as early-in-the-season-problems.
    Okay, I apologize in advance for writing a long-winded post defending this pair, but I cannot help it. Your post was harsh. Someone has to defend them! I think M/B are wonderful, and have several qualities that cannot be taught. Some of their technical elements need tweaks, but that stuff can be taught to a team of this caliber. They are relatively inexperienced, young team that has a lot to work on, which is normal. At the same time, they are already quite good, and it's great that they are winning medals on the GP circuit on a regular basis.

    I'm going to defend Keauna on this one. Obviously it's not a contest which partner can land more jumps and it doesn't matter, but in reply to your post, I will mention that she landed more SBS jumps cleanly in competition than Rockne did last season. Given this fact, I found it slightly amusing when the focus for some people this season was how she was going to jump. I, personally, was kind of interested to see how both of them would jump! I mean, sure, she's not yet jumping as consistently as, say, Savchenko or Volosozhar (even they have their moments), but generally for a pair girl, she's jumped decently in competition thus far. Whatever consistency she lacks right now, she makes up for a lot of that in other areas anyway.

    The 3S Keauna landed in the SP here was very good. The LP one, not so much, but it's not really alarming. Two years ago, when M/B inserted SBS 3S into their programs for the first time, she messed up nearly all of them. Since that year, she has landed cleanly nearly all of them. Pair guys almost always have bigger and perhaps more consistent jumps than pair girls, so I don't see anything alarming here at all. I just thought it was good to see that Rockne's 3S at this competition looked much better than most of the 3S he did in competition last year. They are a team... It's normal if sometimes one partner struggles and sometimes the other struggles.

    The only thing I found unusually inconsistent about M/B this week at COR were their throws. Even in the warmups, they looked more off than usual. Last year, they had a very consistent throw 3S in competition- they didn't miss any all season. The one they did today looked like it had too much rotation (the 3L looked the opposite, maybe not enough rotation). I, personally, have never done a throw in my life and may have zero idea what I am talking about, but I would guess it's just a matter of building more muscle memory to get them back to normal. M/B have been quite good at throws. They just have to get back in the groove, and it probably just takes a few adjustments.

    As for the lifts, I, for one, would much rather watch Keauna's beautifully extended star lift than any lift Qing Pang ever does. (I appreciate P/T's good qualities, but lifts aren't one of them.)

    One additional/unrelated note about M/B at COR. They looked SO serious when they came out onto the ice. I don't know if they were told to be serious when they came out onto the ice or what, but I think they should go back to smiling. Maybe it would help them relax more before their programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadine View Post
    I don't even have to watch Pang & Tong I know they will finish first.

    So I'm not watching, lol, seriously they don't move me, never have. She looks anorexic, but I know it's just her natural physique, but their appearance turns me off.
    It's funny you should mention that, Nadine, because I actually thought Qing Pang gained quite a bit of weight since last season...and I consider that a good thing! If she has gained weight, it certainly doesn't seem to affect her skating in a negative way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakeshore View Post
    Keauna MCLAUGHLIN / Rockne BRUBAKER
    Both SP and LP have great potential. I like the music cut and the choreography. Love love[COLOR="Red"] their speed & ice coverage[/COLOR], spins and lifts. IMHO, they're the fastest pair out there.


    Yuko KAVAGUTI / Alexander SMIRNOV
    Qing PANG / Jian TONG

    Both teams are very sloooow and have the ugliest lift positions.

    To be honest, which of Yuko/Alexander's big trick elements is of high quality? I can't find any. I don't know why there's not any downgrade on 3twist. This team and D/D are no where near to get 3 rotations in air.
    Oh dear,,,,,,,I think last season MCLAUGHLIN/ BRUBAKER had great speed,,,but last week the speed was even slower than P/T and K/S, which reflects on their PCS......

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    Qing Pang has certainly been almost worrisomely thin. I think these days, it is much less distracting to see her looking shall we say "healthier" She is a real beauty in my opinion as well.

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    You know, I hate it when people refer to thin women as anorexic. Qing Pang's appearance doesn't have any signs of anorexia, she is thin and that's it. But it's really very insulting and disrespectful to call someone anorexic, I know what I'm talking about. BTW Qing is a very beautiful, healthy looking woman.
    Had to get that off my chest, now back on topic.
    Now that I've finally watched Pang & Tong's programs man I love them. The short is good, but the long is awesome! Almost perfect! How she hit the throws right on the note of the music...and the timing and sync were just perfect So many beautiful moves... I hate to say that but this FS is much better than S/S...
    I so hope they can medal in Vancouver!

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