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    OD 9:15 am Eastern time Friday

    http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=1442

    For those wanting to review this year's criteria for the folk/country OD, I've included the above link.

    Folk / Country Dance
    Any type of folk/country dance music or typical dance of the country can be used. For the chosen type, there are no restrictions on the number of musical selections. Although the dance may consist of different musical selections – fast and/or slow- there must be a consistent theme based on a specific country or region.

    The arrangement of the chosen music should give a genuine feel for folk/country dance. It should be very distant from the feeling of the Grand Ballroom.

    ...

    It is recommended that couples should use their own traditional folk or country music and dances.

    The folk/country dance character and style must be translated to the ice by flow and use of edges.

    Vocal music is permitted. Variations of tempo within one selection of music are permitted. Each selection of music may have a different tempo.

    Duration: 2 minutes and 30 seconds (plus or minus 10 seconds).

    Costumes: Rule 612 applies with the following exceptions:
    If appropriate for the chosen music, the lady and the man are permitted to wear trousers and sleeves of any length.

    Small props that are part of the costume and are characteristic for the chosen music are allowed (hats, head bands, ribbon). Such props may not be thrown and/or passed from one skater to the other in any part of the program.

    According to the Rule 612 paragraph 1c): "The decorations on costumes must be non-detachable." If a decoration or a part of the costume or hair decoration such as flowers, headbands, ribbons, etc (which are also a part of a costume), falls on the ice during the performance, the costume deduction of 1.0 is required by the Referee.

    The following types of props are not a part of the costume and are not permitted: cane (walking stick), umbrella, bouquet etc. If used, the above mentioned deduction will be applied by the Referee.

    Requirements are:

    One short lift
    An optional extra lift is allowed, but only the first lift is scored.

    Note: If the Lift does not fit to the phrasing of the music in the OD, the judges must reduce the GOE and the GOE must be in minus. If the Lift does not reflect the character of the dance in the OD, the judges must reduce the GOE by 1 Grade.
    Midline, Not Touching Sequence with no sequential twizzles
    Footwork may include mirror steps and non mirror steps. Couples' paths may cross each other.

    Either a Circular or a Diagonal Step Sequence skated in dance holds (excluding hand to hand)

    Note: For both Step Sequences (Not Touching and in Hold):
    Lifts, jumps of more than ½ rotation, stops, dance spins, pirouettes, pattern regressions and loops must not be included in either step
    sequence.
    If the Step Sequence is not skated with the rhythm pattern of the music in the OD, the judges must reduce the GOE and the GOE must be in minus.

    If the Step Sequence does not reflect the character of the dance in the OD, the judges must reduce the GOE by 1 Grade.

    If one of the not permitted elements (e.g. jumps of more than half (½) rotation, stops or pattern regressions etc.) is included in Step Sequence the the judges should deduct accordingly for the inclusion of a not permitted element.If an illegal element is included in the step sequence (e.g. Jump of more than 1 rotation, lying on the ice etc.), the Technical Panel
    will call an “illegal element” and the entire Step Sequence “No Level”.
    ONE (1) Set of Sequential Twizzles - two twizzles on one foot for both partners skated simultaneously

    Additional rules that I found interesting

    a) The incorrect selection of music for the rhythms/dances chosen must be penalized.

    b) Only music with a rhythmic beat may be used and the couples must skate primarily to the rhythmic beat.
    ...

    e) All steps, turns, rotations and changes of hold are permitted provided that they are appropriate to the rhythm. Difficult, original, varied and intricate footwork is required for both skaters. For the Linking Footwork/Movements a program
    that relies heavily on the use of chasses and progressives (runs), posing and one directional skating is considered to be less difficult than one containing changes of edge, rockers, choctaws and other such steps and turns, and multidirectional skating. Hops and jumps of not more than one full (1) rotation are permitted. These jumps of 1 rotation may not be performed simultaneously and are not permitted at all in any step sequence. Excessive skating on two feet, by either partner or both, is considered as showing the inability to skate or maintain balance. However, one (1) highlight for which one or both partner(s) are on two feet may be included (maximum duration – 5 seconds).

    Kneeling or sliding on two knees is not permitted (if this happens it will be considered as a fall and the appropriate deduction will be applied by the Technical Panel).

    A program which is choreographed so that its performance extends to all sides of the arena is preferable to one directed to only the judges’ side.

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    f) Partners must not separate except to change dance hold, to perform the not-touching step sequence or the permitted full stop. Separations at the beginning and/or end of the program may be up to 10 seconds in duration without restrictions on distance of the separations.

    g) There are no restrictions on dance holds. Skating in Hand-in-Hand hold with full extended arms is permitted only if in the character of the rhythm chosen but must not be used excessively.
    ...
    i) The program must be developed through skating quality rather than through non-skating actions such as sliding on one knee, or use of toe steps which should be used only to reflect the character of the dance and underlining rhythm and nuances of the chosen music.

    Here's the choices the teams have made for their folk/country original dance.

    Tanith Belbin/Benjamin Agosto USA
    OD- "MoldovaNeska" by the Igor Moiseyev Ensemble

    Madison Chock/Greg Zuerlein USA
    OD-Afro Cuban Folk; Afro Cuban Dance: Yema Ya
    and Agua Nile

    Federica Faiella/Massimo Scali ITA
    OD-Italian Country Folk Dance ( Tamurriata Napoletana)

    Jana Khoklova/Sergei Novitski RUS
    OD-music of Muslim Magomaev (Russian folk)

    Kaitlyn Weaver/Andrew Poje CAN
    OD-Flamenco

    Alexandra Zaretski/Roman Zaretski ISR
    OD – Hava Nagila

    Xintong Huang / Xun Zheng CHN
    OD-Greek Folk (Zorba the Greek)

    Xiaoyang Yu / Chen Wang CHN
    OD Chinese Folk: House of Flying Daggers


    Anna Zadorozhniuk/Sergei Verbillo UKR
    OD-Ukrainian Folk Dance
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    The music choice of Xiaoyang Yu / Chen Wang is well-known in China, It's about Chu-Han War (2200 years ago),I hope you would like it.^-^

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    Thank you! i'm looking forward to it!

    Didn't one of the Chinese pair teams, I think Zhang and Zhang?, skate to House of Flying Daggers one year? If I am remembering correctly, it was definitely good music for skating!

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    CCTV-5 will show the Original Dance?

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    Order of skate

    Warm-Up Group 1
    1 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN
    9 24.73
    2 Xintong HUANG / Xun ZHENG CHN
    8 27.87
    3 Madison CHOCK / Greg ZUERLEIN USA
    7 28.76
    4 Anna ZADOROZHNIUK / Sergei VERBILLO UKR
    6 29.43
    Warm-Up Group 2
    5 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN
    5 30.40
    6 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR
    4 30.88
    7 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI ITA
    3 35.37
    8 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS
    2 36.30
    9 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA
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    CCTV or any other chanel will show the OD live now? CCTV is now showing mens SP and the next program will be son, don't know if they will show

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    Korean Channel has Yuna Kim on now.
    Where is OD?! CCTV5 showing men...
    Isn't it supposed to start at 9.15?
    Well, it's 9.20 now already.
    Ok, here it is. on TVU. Warp up is over.

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    Is anybody doing PbP?
    I'm not a big dance specialist at all!
    Can talk about costumes and couple of twizzles.haha

    Ok then.
    First Chinise Couple Yu/Wang did Chinise routine. Not much character there. Twizzles were not great either. she catched her foot, but he did not.
    Second couple. Huang/Zheng. Greek routine. Nice. better than 1st couple. but loads of flows as well. into 1st place.
    76 overall.

    Chock/Zurlein. She is simly stunning. Not sure about costumes but somehow they work. Fast, emotions are on as well. But something is missing. Twizzles are ok but a bit alow comparing to everything else. Just noticed Madison has grey hearts on each od her skates, kind of cute.)
    OD - 47.27. Overall 76.03. Into second place.
    Maybe dorispulaski could expalin. Why are such a low scores for them?
    Last edited by Charlotte Elizabeth; 10-30-2009 at 08:38 AM.

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    Zadorozhnuk/Verbilo. Disastrous costume. Don't understand why her skirt has to be pink if she has red boots and he has red giant pants? Loads of character in the end. Technically not perfect.
    50.22 for OD, 79.65 overall.
    Into 1sr place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlotte Elizabeth View Post
    Is anybody doing PbP?
    I'm not a big dance specialist at all!
    Can talk about costumes and couple of twizzles.haha

    Ok then.
    First Chinise Couple Yu/Wang did Chinise routine. Not much character there. Twizzles were not great either. she catched her foot, but he did not.
    Second couple. Huang/Zheng. Greek routine. Nice. better than 1st couple. but loads of flows as well. into 1st place.
    76 overall.

    Chock/Zurlein. She is simly stunning. Not sure about costumes but somehow they work. Fast, emotions are on as well. But something is missing. Twizzles are ok but a bit alow comparing to everything else. Just noticed Madison has grey hearts on each od her skates, kind of cute.)
    OD - 47.27. Overall 76.03. Into second place.
    Maybe dorispulaski could expalin. Why are such a low scores for them?
    The chinese team before them were totally in synch on their free leg while the americans were not.

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    damm it, why I can't wacht this

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    Quote Originally Posted by herios View Post
    The chinese team before them were totally in synch on their free leg while the americans were not.
    Thank you. I simply did not look at Chinise properly.
    Warm up is finishing.
    K/N have ridiculous costumes on. It actually makes her waist look fat, I'm sorry.

    TVU stopped broadcasting and started showing Yuna's last year SP....
    I don't know what to do! Help. WHAT A HELL?!
    CCTV5 is showing basketball.

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    Are junior grand prix ice dancing over scored? Here C/Z were scored over 10 points less than they did in WJC, interestingly most of the junior pair have the same problem like Bobrova and soleivev had when they moved up.

    Even this year Shibutanis and three Russian pairs score as high 170 points in their JGP, and are almost guaranteed a senior event for next year with that kind of scores. are they over scored IN jGP and when they move up to senior level they just are scored appropriately.

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    Bad OD for W&P; she fell down, difficult one for the Zaretskis. Z&V still hold the lead.

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    I wish I could see this. There is another chanel??

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