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Thread: Men's LP Saturday Nov 14th 9:00 p.m EST

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    Why is it blank on certain judges score?, is it the system randomly dropping a judges score. i don't remember seeing this in other protocols .

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    Taking a wild guess at it

    It looks like they were missing one judge, so there are fewer scores than expected. There are usually 9 judges and there ae only 8 sets of scores here at Skate America.

    However, there is something else interesting going on:

    The missing column moves between skaters so it looks like they might be randomizing the order of listing judges. The reason for doing that would be so that you can't look down the column and say, Judge 1 might be from Cheatostan, because he marks the Cheatostani skaters high and everyone else low.

    Judge 1 for skater 1 is now Cheatostan, but the Cheatostani judge is Judge 4 for the second skater, and so forth
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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    seniorita's other favorite bores the heck out of me.....
    Amodio bores you?
    And what happened to him last tonight?

    Bradley had the same funny Mozart program as TEB?I liked that program!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    It looks like they were missing one judge, so there are fewer scores than expected. There are usually 9 judges and there ae only 8 sets of scores here at Skate America.

    However, there is something else interesting going on:

    The missing column moves between skaters so it looks like they might be randomizing the order of listing judges. The reason for doing that would be so that you can't look down the column and say, Judge 1 might be from Cheatostan, because he marks the Cheatostani skaters high and everyone else low.

    Judge 1 for skater 1 is now Cheatostan, but the Cheatostani judge is Judge 4 for the second skater, and so forth
    Thanks Doris for that, I am guilty of some of things you mentioned, but they have listed 9 Judges in panel of Judges and i believe allnine were present to judge the event. I am more puzzled by the movement of these missing columns. Interestingly Pairs and Men's sp protocols lists the results of all 9 judges.

    Or unless wicked brain of Ottavio Cinquanta has come up with another ploy to further confuse and delude us fans.
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    So happy for Sawyer and for Bradly. Both are very entertaining skaters. Both also usually have problems so it's nice to see a good result for them. I still do not get Evan's PCS. I mean what the heck are the judges seeing in him? No question he was first but...well anyway it'll be interesting to see if all skaters skate clean at the Oys (do I expect that? no. would I like it? oh yeah) what his scores are. And between skaters such as Brezina and Amodio and Rippon and Dennis Ten (I like him a lot but hope he can deal with his nerves) the future of men's skating is looking good.

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    Ok...I don't feel like reading this whole threat...but here is my take from seeing this live -
    There wasn't one program that was clean..including Evan's although he made one little mistake!

    Ryan so deserved the bronze. The program was great and really plays to the audience. He is the crowd favorite and I can see why.

    Evan's long is amazing minus the one little mistake. If he can skate like that at the Olympics...well I see victory. It's amazing in person. He scored 238 points...not sure if that's the highest this season and I really don't feel like trying to check that out.

    As for the missing judge is was judge number 7 and who knows where that judge was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillylionlove View Post
    Evan's long is amazing minus the one little mistake. If he can skate like that at the Olympics...well I see victory. It's amazing in person. He scored 238 points...not sure if that's the highest this season and I really don't feel like trying to check that out.
    It's not. Even with the PCS assist, it's a lower overall score than Plushenko at Rostelecom and Oda at CoC and at TEB (the latter remains the top overall score of the season). The highest SP score so far is Joubert at NHK, and the highest LP score is Oda at TEB. I'm good with Oda having the highest score so far, he totally deserves it.

    If everyone or at least some people skate well in Vancouver, Evan Lysacek shouldn't even be on the podium, let alone at the top of it. Seriously, other than his fabulous sit spin he is behind most of the top guys technically, and he has been skating the same program for years. I'm sure he's exciting to watch and is great fun as a show skater, but in competition? There are at least six or seven guys who are more talented, only some are less consistent. But in comparison to the SA field this year, I'm not surprised he looked wonderful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    It's not. Even with the PCS assist, it's a lower overall score than Plushenko at Rostelecom and Oda at CoC and at TEB (the latter remains the top overall score of the season). The highest SP score so far is Joubert at NHK, and the highest LP score is Oda at TEB. I'm good with Oda having the highest score so far, he totally deserves it.

    If everyone or at least some people skate well in Vancouver, Evan Lysacek shouldn't even be on the podium, let alone at the top of it. Seriously, other than his fabulous sit spin he is behind most of the top guys technically, and he has been skating the same program for years. I'm sure he's exciting to watch and is great fun as a show skater, but in competition? There are at least six or seven guys who are more talented, only some are less consistent. But in comparison to the SA field this year, I'm not surprised he looked wonderful.
    It must be killing certain fans that Evan refuses to succumb to competition nerves like so many others .

    Here is a little secret for you - Plushy has been skating the same program much longer than Evan has, and so has Joubert. Or haven't you noticed
    And for that matter, Weir doesn't even seem to change his music
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    It looks like they were missing one judge, so there are fewer scores than expected. There are usually 9 judges and there ae only 8 sets of scores here at Skate America.

    However, there is something else interesting going on:
    Earlier in the day Frank Carroll saw the missing judge standing at the same spot where Fassi made his infamous deal back in 1980.

    Unable to control his emotions, Carroll arranged to have this judge kidnapped and he is now probably "sleeping with the fishes" beneath the frigid waters of Lake Placid.

    Now that is what I call "protecting your skater"
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    Congrats to Evan, Shawn and Ryan. The men gave the teenagers a lesson in the art of competition last night and I hoped they paid attention. Evan is on the right track to Vancouver and has just as much a shot at medaling as the other frontrunners.

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    Other than Plush, is Ryan the only guy to land two quads in the LP this year? Plus a not too good 3A?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunstrijdster View Post
    The only Teenagers in this event were Mroz, Amodio and Reynolds. Actually a pretty seasoned lineup this time
    I am tallking about Mroz and Amodo. They were in position to medal and
    fell apart.

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    Kunstrijdster, Just out of curiosity, why do you have Hello Vancouver written in Greek on your siggie picture (not why Vancouver, why Greek?)

    Never mind, I get it. Tomas is skating his SP to Zorba!
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    I havent had a chance to watch, but I am just sad that Tomas doesnt seem to have been at his best.

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    Thanks!

    I got it just before you posted (I am a little slow sometimes) It looks really nice!

    It amuses me that the V's in Vancouver transliterate to B(eta)s in Greek because beta is pronounced like V. So modern Greek has no letter for what I pronounce as B. They needed the V but had lost the the digamma which had the v/w sound sometime between Homer and the Golden Age of Athens. So apparently they needed a V sound more than a B sound.

    This makes it very interesting sometimes, because what to do with a real B? The Greek language Brooklyn newspaper used to represent the B in Brooklyn as M(u)P(i) as far as I remember.

    For some reason, picturing Brooklyn pronounced as Mprooklyn amuses me..

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