but geez, come to think of it, this Plushy fellow has no more color than a polar bear
I think Tomas and Plushy should both take a trip to SoCal and spend a day on the beach with Evan. He just looks so healthy and natural compared to both of them
Warning; this post is not so serious
Last edited by janetfan; 11-16-2009 at 09:37 AM.
Leave those 2 white boys to Euros . I believe Evgeni will make an appearance at Euros. Also in Euros is my boy, Michal. Don't forget that, and of course, we will have another look at Brian.
Come to think of it, I'm now wondering about 4CC more than the US Nats.
To be honest, I don't think Evan's choice of music means he has superior taste in music at all (I remember him saying that he's never heard of Tosca a couple of seasons ago!). To me, skating to tired old warhorses season after season with minimal differences in choreography just shows a lack of creativity and a desire to stay firmly boxed in one's 'safe zone,' even if said safe zone does not even really fit so well. To you, Evan may bring intenstiy, passion, etc to his programs but to me, I think the famous and beautiful music does half the job for him already....
I don't think it's shallow to knock Evan for his lack of musicality...Joubert and Plush get the same criticism anyways. It's not like anyone here has EVER said Joubert and Plush handle musical interpretation the way skaters like Jeremy Abbott or Jeffrey Buttle do.
Last edited by evangeline; 11-16-2009 at 12:26 PM.
Actually, I can't say I really thrill to Jeremy Abbott that much. Saw him live at Liberty, and can definitely take him or leave him. In the style that he skates, Patrick Chan was better. Ryan B OTOH rocked the house.
I was NOT being serious, OK. I was particularly giving Evan big credit for the things you just pointed out. I have no idea about Evan's taste in music and felt like having a little fun. Looking at Evan's costumes and ridiculous "George Hamilton" tan make me wonder about Evan's taste about much more than just music.
I think it is OK to try and have some fun and humor (even failed humor) can be better at times for all of us.
Medusa began the post I replied to by stating "Joubert is NOT a musical skater."
I thought I would try to parody some of her words and several other posters.
I find that people who claim that "Evan's skating drives them to despair," while others talk as if they actually know him offers rich ground for parody and satire. I am surprised that you, a native English speaker did not get it.
So I agree with you - because you just said EXACTLY what I was making fun of.
I will try harder next time. I will even translate to Greek so seniorta will have a chance to laugh or get upset with me for the right reasons.
Last edited by janetfan; 11-16-2009 at 12:49 PM.
[QUOTE=cloudkicker09;429930]I have to completely agree, I cannot stand Evan as a skater or as a person, he just comes off as such a jerk, whenever I see his interviews.
Don't understand where you get this impression. Evan is never snide. He is always a gentleman - very courteous and well spoken. I have met him numerous times. He thinks before he speaks and in my opinon since I have known him for years, he's a classy guy.. At the Chicago media summit Ralph Lauren party, he was there with his parents and gave a wonderful speech.
Weir did say, "I was told I need to end with a big crescendo and to show more energetic footwork LIKE EVAN DOES."
I think what Weir said is true - but I don't see Evan's IN getting any better at the end, but the music does get louder and he gets more frantic so it fools the public and the judges. Call it the curse of CoP steps!
I worked my way through music school playing Pop/Rock music and I like all types of music, even some American country/bluegrass ( I "Alison Krause and Union Station" - maybe because Alison is a German-American girl.
If I ever meet her I will offer her a chocolate bar but will not call her the "f" word
The only music I am not too fond of is certain types of Euro techno music and most American techno and hip-hop music. Maybe because I am just older - and I get it if that music was not written for my ears.
I have a dog named Martha - after Paul McCartney's song "Martha My Dear" which Paul happened to compose for his own dog. Beatles trivia ja, ja
Anyway, I still doubt if a certain Greek lady gets even something as obvious as the '"healthy and natural" comments about Evan and the pale Euro boyz.
Last edited by janetfan; 11-16-2009 at 01:32 PM.
I don't care for criticisms of skaters' personalities. As far as I'm concerned, their job is what they put out on the ice. Anything else is pretty irrelevant... if not sheer gossip. Small incidents can get blown up and distorted in the repetition and analysis -- in the process somebody's character can get assassinated and they never have a chance to defend themselves.
I'm not wild about Evan's skating but I have absolutely nothing against him personally. If anything I admire his work ethic and determination immensely.
Praising skaters' virtues is certainly more pleasant. It's also irrelevant, but does no harm.
(Well, on second thought, exaggerated praise is not particularly beneficial to the soul. And then, I don't know if it happens in skating, but celebrities have PR machines to make it look like they're saving the world -- I find it hard to take any of it seriously. If they were really that selfless they wouldn't have PR machines.)
Perhaps it's best to focus on the skating. A novel idea!
http://www.tomasverner.com/5065.photodetailimage.ashxMaybe Tomas should make a quick trip to Belgium and see if Kevin could lend him one of his more exotic costumes
but uuh if you wanna see him tanned, look for some summer pictures or ones from the show in Prague last april. He went skiing shortly before :D
I m not native and I certainly dont have B's and Med's fluency(but i take notes) but I can get most things here, it is not like I needed the Britannica to read your post