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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    The Ladies LP is still not yet up on IceNetwork.

    I'm going to throw a shoe at someone.
    That's cos it's not going to be, Blades of Glory (). NBC broadcasted it live so they cannot show it on IN. I was also left with youtube to watch the ladies LP afterwards.

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    I thought when Rachael took that step she was going to execute the same Camel in both directions which would have been amazing although non scoreable. But she went into a sitsspin in the other direction, which makes me think that could be her best direction for a sitsspin. If that were so, all she did was two separate spins which could be legally evaluated. No? Is there a limit on the number of spins one can show in a program like there is for jump passes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bekalc View Post
    Oh please. Yu-na is only missing one triple in her program. The other double axel she does is a reward for doing her double axel/3toe and then the other one is a requirement.
    Um, I'm a loving fan of Yu-Na too, but let's be honest, the extra 2Axel is a replacement for the missing 3loop. To say it's a reward for doing a 2Axel+3toe combination seems like you're reaching to me. Ando also attempts 2Axel+3toe combination, but she does attempt the 3loop, not a 3rd 2Axel attempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Is there a limit on the number of spins one can show in a program like there is for jump passes?
    Yes. Only three spins.

    But why were both of those spins not counted, not just the 4th spin? Was her third spin invalid because it was counted as a third Camel spin? And the fourth spin because it didn't have enough revolutions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    I thought when Rachael took that step she was going to execute the same Camel in both directions which would have been amazing although non scoreable. But she went into a sitsspin in the other direction, which makes me think that could be her best direction for a sitsspin. If that were so, all she did was two separate spins which could be legally evaluated. No? Is there a limit on the number of spins one can show in a program like there is for jump passes?
    No -
    you only get three spin boxes, all must be of a different nature, one must be a flying entry and one must be a CCoSp (which was what she intended by the spin but stepped too far away once she completed the CW camel and therefore ended up doing 2 separate spins). Since the CSp did not fullfull the CCoSp, it was an invalid element and the additional spin (CoSp - sit to upright) was also invalid.

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    Mathman, thanks for the pointers on double-quoting. I've saved your post and hope to give it a try. I'm amazed that I figured out to quote at all!

    How is it surprising that we are picking apart YuNa's bad skate? For one thing, we're the ultimate back-seat drivers and Monday morning quarterbacks (except we start on Sunday afternoon in most time zones). We think we're the ones propping 'em up on the ice...perfectly natural impulse in ardent fans!

    For another reason, we love skating and want its best practitioners to give us a performance for the ages. Most of us, whoever we're the biggest fans of, have a deep-down wish to be witnesses to a golden age of skating. We don't want to watch a succession of "B-plus" skaters, even if they give our country a sweep of the gold medals. We want to see the immortals who will be talked about when our grandchildren are adults. This coming winter, we want to say about someone (or some pair), "We are so lucky to be here tonight!"--which is what Peggy Fleming said in 1984 after Torvill and Dean's free dance. And the person most likely to give us that experience right now is YuNa. So we hope that she'll fix her shoulder position, or her nerves, or whatever it is that held her back this Sunday.

    And besides, a lot of us would just love to see what Brian Orser would look like as the happiest guy in the world on Olympics long program night! In Canada! Wouldn't that be poetic justice....

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    I wasn't really kidding. I just feel like the skaters must be super embarrassed when people start asking them why they weren't as good as they were last season. When other skaters had multiple meltdowns in a season, people started to talk, but Yu Na has had ONE semi-meltdown, I think people should wait a few more competitions and see how she does there before they panic and decide something's wrong.

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    I'm not in a panic for Yu-Na . . . I think she will be fine and rebound from Skate America's LP performance, but it does bring alarm that she is having trouble with the 3flip (2 LP performances now) when she already doesn't have the 3loop in her arsenal. With those 2 jumps MIA, it sure does put a lot of pressure to hit everything else in the performance or else risk finishing behind a solid Ando or Rochette. Again, this is just IF she doesn't get it back together speaking; I happen to think she will regain the solidity on the 3flip. Again, with her spectacular SP track record, she already has a HUGE advantage over the rest of the field. I think she will have to have a major mistake like falling on the combination jump or the 3flip in the SP for others to have a chance at dethroning her.

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    You are right she does have A huge advantage over the rest of the ladies. She can skate a perfect short unlike mao and many of the others. Once she has that it really does not matterif she does not have her flip she her lead will be that big. Sure, she might not male another WR without it, but I didn't ginkgo that was the goal here.

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    why are people so panicked? This was only ONE
    competition...if she has a similar performance at the GPF I can understand, but come on...she's still a shoo-in for the OGM

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    To make a very, very bad pun...

    No one's a shoo-in for the Olympics, because they're not wearing shoes...they're wearing skates, and it's slippery out there....

    (sorry, couldn't resist)

    That said, I do feel (and hope) that YuNa's technique is so solid that this past Sunday's lapse was just that, a lapse and a fluke. I hope she bounces back better than ever and is smooth as silk over the ice from this time on. That was way too scary to watch!

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    Perhaps it didn't come through in my above post but I'm aware that no one is a sure bet. I was half-kidding- just saying that she is still the heavy favorite in Vancouver. I mean, she still has a 1.5 or 2 fall advantage over her other competitors.

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    I've just read Yuna's interview with Korean media. I wasn't panicked by her performance, and it seems that Yuna wasn't, either. I think that could happen to any skater any time. At least..she proved that she's beatable and that Olympics will be more interesting than I used to think.

    She said that she was not in a good condition and... the pressure...that she got embarrassed by her mistake in her first jump. She has hardly been influenced by one mistake, but she said that this time she completely messed up her performance after that. Nontheless, she accepted it as a good lesson/experience and looks pretty O.K.

    Another thing is.. One journalist asked her about her diet...she said that she's not in a miserable diet as some think. She eats whatever she wants - Korean food as breakfast, bread/salad/etc as lunch in the club, usually cereal and fruits as dinner...but she mentioned that even though she eats enough until she feels full ....she gets hungry around when she goes to bed.(I think she's still growing.)


    Sorry for my poor English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.D. View Post
    why are people so panicked? This was only ONE
    competition...if she has a similar performance at the GPF I can understand, but come on...she's still a shoo-in for the OGM
    Oh, now, that's just not true. If Rachael can beat Yu Na in the FP, Mao certainly can. And then all she has to do is beat her in the SP. Piece of cake. Go, Mao!
    Another thing is.. One journalist asked her about her diet...she said that she's not in a miserable diet as some think. She eats whatever she wants - Korean food as breakfast, bread/salad/etc as lunch in the club, usually cereal and fruits as dinner...but she mentioned that even though she eats enough until she feels full ....she gets hungry around when she goes to bed.(I think she's still growing.)
    Glad to hear it!

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    I feel bad for Yu Na. I think it was on Friday during practice....there was a camera man right up in her face videotaping her tying her skates. The press around her was unbelievable and the state troopers were called either to escort her out of the building or just to help out....not really sure since they werent there for any other person. Also, for the short program, the Korean ambassador paid for about 6 charter buses for Korean fans to see her short program. This is not a rumor but was told to me by someone from the USFSA. I would say that for the long program on Sunday the arean was half filled with people from Korea. They all left after she skated. I can't imagine that it is easy to have to skate with all that going on around you and with all that pressure. I was talking to someone and we said "god help her if she doesn't win the gold medal at the Olympics."

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