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    Oda and the Chaplin Routine

    I believe Morozov gave Nobunari the routine. I doubt if Nobi would think of it. I am sure he was fast fed tapes and discs of Chaplin's movies. Well, he did it quite well. Better than Sikhilarudze? Not necessary to decide, I like them both.

    However, Nobi will use it at the Olys and he will be quadless. He will be up against 2 old timers with consistent quads - Plushy and Brian both of whom have winning routines also, and if Abbott is having a good day, there is another quadman. Jeremy also is the most prominent musical skater, although the butterflies may hit him. Of course there is Dai, too.

    Question: Will the Chaplin carry Nobunari to an Olympic gold, or is it set in stone?
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    Oda won't necessarily be quadless. He may put in the quad at the GPF.

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    Hey, don't forget Patrick! He may put in a quad too.

    For that matter, so could Evan... maybe. (Didn't he say somewhere he plans to by January?)

    To me any of these guys could win and the quad isn't necessarily the deciding factor... nothing's set in stone. It all depends on who's ON that night.

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    I don't think the Quad will be the decisive factor in winning. If everyone does it, and only Tomas gets the judges ok for it, there has to be something else. Nobi has a sparkling routine; Brian is so much improved in performance; Plushy is an intimidator.

    The question if Nobi does the quad will that clinch the gold for him?

    Oh how the Men will rule at the Olys.

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    As it is now maybe not. He has the best score of the season but it is not too high. But why he will be quadless?He can jump 4-3 and he has said he would like to add 4-3-3 or 4-3-2 in the season. He will have a quad in his Lp at least. Cause otherwise how he would get higher score than Teb where he skated great?

    If he adds a quad will he perorm the program the same?
    His pcs for the program are very good, can he get even better?He doesnt have to worry for his pcs, the program is a masterpiece and one of few that are complete and wonderful so far, and judges seem to like it. Joub and Plush dont have winners routines, at least not yet, I mean thats my opinion.
    But he has to increase his Tes score , at the end of the night it will be the skater with higher marks.
    I would put Lambiel first as a potential gold before Dai or Jeremy .

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    Does anyone have a youtube of Oda's quad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Does anyone have a youtube of Oda's quad?
    I think Oda's quad and the fact that he hasn't shown it this season should be considered more like Patrick's quad. If they try it I hope they land it. If not, they still have good enough chances in Vancouver if they can skate cleanly enough without the quad.

    I think you are right about the men in Vancouver. Several can have meltdowns, but there are still so many capable of executing a good program.

    But about certain skaters I will belive it when I see.
    Olympic ice is the slipperiest ice of all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    I think you are right about the men in Vancouver. Several can have meltdowns, but there are still so many capable of executing a good program.
    If you remember, none of the top dogs skated their best in 2006 - not even Plushy. I'm hoping Vancouver will not repeat Torino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Does anyone have a youtube of Oda's quad?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5pIs...eature=related

    it's last year's video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    If you remember, none of the top dogs skated their best in 2006 - not even Plushy. I'm hoping Vancouver will not repeat Torino.
    hmmm, in Torino I think Evan skated his best in his LP.
    I will give him a pass on his SP because he was very sick.

    I will also give Plushy a pass - how much better did you expect him to skate in Torino? I mean he crushed the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ks777 View Post
    Thank you ks Although it was in a pracice session, the quad was beautifully executed with excellent technique. IMO, he has the best flow out of his landings in all of skateland.

    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post

    I will also give Plushy a pass - how much better did you expect him to skate in Torino? I mean he crushed the field.
    I was not talking competatively. He deserved his win. But not just me, the consensus was that his scores were too high. He is not the greatest spinner, his footwork is standard Cossack style. yet he received those high scores. He won and I agree to it but the skate was ho hum. I think many others will agree, he was not at his best.

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    Some small clips of Oda's quad , not good angle of videos, but his landings are out of this world. I think it is from last year.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY_D9YN_quU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EF7f8I6zLg

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    Quote Originally Posted by ks777 View Post
    Wow... I can only say I wish I was there to witness that in real life! That looks gorgeous!!! I thought Oda's triple axel-triple toe combo was also very impressive. There's so many good skaters in Men's; if many of them have a good outing at the Olympics, it could be a stunning competition! Right now it does look like Plushy's going to be golden again... His jumps are indeed intimidating!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Thank you ks Although it was in a pracice session, the quad was beautifully executed with excellent technique. IMO, he has the best flow out of his landings in all of skateland.


    I was not talking competatively. He deserved his win. But not just me, the consensus was that his scores were too high. He is not the greatest spinner, his footwork is standard Cossack style. yet he received those high scores. He won and I agree to it but the skate was ho hum. I think many others will agree, he was not at his best.
    "Cossack style" ??

    Not meant to be critical at all, just made me laugh, OK.

    I kid all the time about Plushy - but as good as he is - he was under tremendous pressure to win in Torino. I don't mean pressure from the Russian media, just a more personal type of pressure - like maybe this would be his last chance to win the OGM.

    Four years have passed and maybe he will do it again - but I don't think he will feel the same amount of pressure in Vancouver as he did in Torino.

    I hear similar remarks about Shiz - but compared to the others I thought she skated really well in Torino. Could she have done better? Of course, but considering the pressure I thought she skated beautifully and deserved the Gold medal.

    "Cossack steps" is a delightful description - do you have equally colorful words to describe Plushy's sitspins? If so, please share !!

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    Plushenko (never gonna call him Plushy, sorry, am not fond enough of him to do so) has absolutely no artistry in either of his programs! He couldn't touch Yagudin on 2nd marks and he's not gonna be able to touch Oda interpretation/performance-wise either-- at least, he ought not. At least Lysacek tries to up his interpretation and artistry (even if he looks weird doing it, its effort). How about a little heart and choreography every once in a while, Plushenko? He's an overgrown jumping bean! Oda for OGM (or Lambiel)!
    Last edited by cornell08; 11-15-2009 at 12:28 PM.

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