CD Friday Nov. 20th 6:30 PM Eastern Time

[dorispulaski]

Thanks so much for posting this link to this tango as I have felt that too many teams have been taking the wrong attitude with this dance, treating it more like the Argentine. I don't know why the judges haven't really corrected that expression, unless they have also forgotten what this dance is supposed to look like and just focus on the steps.

I think so--but the judges have just been happy this year if the teams can actually do the steps of the TR with reasonable timing. There have been no more than 2, maybe 3 couples each event actually doing it more or less correctly at the 3 events where I have seen it skated. Nebelhorn there were D&W and a big gap to Zaretskis. At COR, D&W and a long way back to C&L and R&S. At NHK, D&W and K&K (who said they just hadn't practiced the TR that much). If you look at D&W's CD scores (esp. the PCS), they are not up to their OD & FD scores...so yes, the judges have been withholding marks for authenticity/non authenticity and other errors, but it isn't showing, because the other teams at NHK and CoR were having basic problems with the steps and the timing. D&W did get a bit of tango feel, too, but I don't think they got it right, and AFAIR, they did not have that crisp almost syncopated sharpness of Pakhomova and Linichuk.

[dorispulaski]

I am really looking forward to seeing V&M's TR!!!

[mishieru07]

I am really looking forward to seeing V&M's TR!!!

So am I. Their Argentine Tango was .

Doris thanks for all your technical analysis! It really helps me to understand the scoring much better. Thank you!

Let's all hope for an awesome performance from everyone!

[dorispulaski]

Start order is now up:
Warm-Up Group 2

1 Andrea CHONG / Guillaume GFELLER CAN

2 Carolina HERMANN / Daniel HERMANN GER

3 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV RUS

4 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN

Warm-Up Group 2

5 Madison HUBBELL / Keiffer HUBBELL USA

6 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA

7 Emily SAMUELSON / Evan BATES USA

8 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN

[npa]

Any practies reports?

[Joesitz]

The Hubbells made the second group over Weaver and Poje. Where did they accumulate the points?

[skatingbc]

The Hubbells made the second group over Weaver and Poje. Where did they accumulate the points?

I think they accumulated more points from last year's JGP, JGP final and then Jr Worlds. Could be wrong though. I also thought it was interesting that Kevin van der Perren is skating after Patrick Chan. Just another piece of evidence that the ISU's World Standing is a huge crock.

[Joesitz]

^^^

Good question. I'm going to put a topic on The Edge for feedback on the Skating Order.

[dorispulaski]

This will be starting soon.

[Atena]

Justin Tv canell will show the CD?

[dorispulaski]

Warm-Up Group 1

Andrea CHONG / Guillaume GFELLER CAN
dark shiny gray lightweight skirt that does not move well at all and exposes undies at inopportune times
deep vee neckline
black gold gloves on her
black pants, white shirt grey op-art diamond pattern vest

legs not kicking up at same time
a bit too close to boards once
timing not great
skirt movement very distracting
awkward move during the close

Score 24.27

Carolina HERMANN / Daniel HERMANN GER

Black pants white shirt black vest and red pocket square
bright red backless dress with a triangular skirt with a strange white splotch on her butt with a stripe leading from it to the hemline

hard to explain. This is very roller-rink in feeling rather than tango of any sort. Skated very smooth instead of sharp and crisp. Rather slow. Better than last couple.

Score 25.29


Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV RUS
backless black dress with spaghetti straps and red string trim on bodice. Lots of necklaces and dog collar look.
he's all in black

They are sharper, faster and getting some tango feel going than the previous 2 teams. Deeper edges. Some two footed looking ness in a couple spots where I don't think there were supposed to be? Probably to deal with the small rink problem.

Score: 30.09


Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN
vertical stripe black/gray pants white shirt & gray/black stripe vest
slightly darker red backless with net over it, one armed dress with black lace insets and one elbow fake glove on opposite side. tasty black leaves on one shoulder
Required red rose in her blonde hair

On the whole, very nice, AFA I could tell. Could have been faster and had deeper edges, but really pretty good.

She says, "We did it!!!"

Score: 32.18 They are thrilled. Crowd goes wild.
Coach says, "Fantastic"
Kaitlyn giggles.

Into first place.

[Hsuhs]

It's on TVU:

http://tvunetworks.com/watchTV/index.html#c=82977

[Spun Silver]

I'm a new P/B fan. They're so chic and intense. V/M need a new designer. Hell, were they that much better?

[dorispulaski]

Warm-Up Group 2

Madison HUBBELL / Keiffer HUBBELL USA
Black dress high neck in front, bit bite out of the back, long sleeves, red bow/flower at back of short blonde hair
bodice is black lace
He looks John Denverish somehow. Red shirt black vest, pants. Could be the mullet.

It might be just me, but their timing seemed off in first iteration, particularly.
Legline slightly off now and then.

I'd have W&P ahead of them by quite a bit.

Score: 27.14 into third behind Bobrova

Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA
Very odd op artish brown and white pattern dress with matching hand band Log cabin quiltish. strappy crisscrosses in the back.
He is doing the rather seedy look somehow. His tie is in her skirt material. Stripe pants (dark) red cuffs and black jacket with lining in red

Much faster, and some impressive edges. Intermittently as sharp as it should be, but really good. Closer together than any previous couple, too. Should score well, I think

Score: 35.55 (SB)

Emily SAMUELSON / Evan BATES USA
Her hair has a 3 inch zigzag in the part.
Evan in red sparkly shirt, black sparkly striped vest and pants
Emily in a Charlestony looking dress in spangled purple with red fringes. High neckline, Backless with long sleeves.

Like Bobrova, there's some two footed bits. Not sharp. Nice legline as always, though. But that's where I'd score it. Behind W&P.

Score: 31.47 SB in 3rd place, behind W&P

Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN

Scott in black v necked jump suit
Tessa in very long red dress, sleeveless, v neck line, quite plain

My impression is that they can do this dance better than they just did it. Close together, good speed and edges, but not as crisp as I know they could do it. Visible adjustments to the rink size, I think. The odd bit of snow kicked up.

Score: 40.69.

I would probably have had it about 38, but what do I know. Significantly better score than anyone has had in a CD this year.

[Spun Silver]

Ah, thank you Doris - you're about to answer my question!