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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    Hell, were they that much better?
    Hard to say without the protocols to back it up. I thought they were pretty strong, precise, expessive, in perfect unison. There was one move though when they kind of 'bumped' into each other a bit, with their bellies. Must be a part of the choreo.

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    Virtue and Moir; Weaver and Poje - What more an anyone ask for?

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    Beautifully skated CD by V/M and W/P. Not sure if I would have V/M that far ahead of W/P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    Ah, thank you Doris - you're about to answer my question!
    You guys from US have to be a party pooper, whenever someone outside US outscores your skaters. Typical.

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    I'm so happy for W/P. Hopefully they'll be able to hold on to third.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herios View Post
    You guys from US have to be a party pooper, whenever someone outside US outscores your skaters. Typical.
    Right. Asking a question or indicating a preference is sure proof of jingoism and bias. :indiff:

    Oh, and BTW - my preference was for the French skaters. But of course we ugly Americans are notorious for our pro-French, anti-Canadian bias. (What am I going to do with my preference for Patrick? Guess I have to junk it 'cos he's Canadian.)

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    I'm SO happy for Weaver & Poje!!!!!

    They were excellent today, and they finally got credit for what they did. It would make my week if they could snag that bronze medal. Heaven knows their OD and FD are beautiful, and they should score really well (if they don't fall like they did in their first event)

    V/M were fantastic as usual. I did notice them kick a tiny bit of snow up at one point, but other than that, it was amazing. They should win this hands down barring any unforseen disasters.

    It would be amazing to see two Canadian teams on the podium. If I had it my way, V/M and W/P would be the two teams going to Vancouver in February.

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    doris, just so I read you correctly, you basically agree with the ranking of the skaters but believe V/M should be a bit lower, right?

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    Yes-nearly 41 is a score for a nearly perfect CD, if you compare that to previous world championship winning CD's. Maybe 39, because it's better than D&W's, but I thought D&W were scored a bit high in the CD also.

    I want to see the sharpness, no pushing, no snow kick ups, and the spirit of Pakhomova's tango ruling even when the music is turned off to score 40 to 41. No one has done that for me yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    Right. Asking a question or indicating a preference is sure proof of jingoism and bias. :indiff:

    Oh, and BTW - my preference was for the French skaters. But of course we ugly Americans are notorious for our pro-French, anti-Canadian bias. (What am I going to do with my preference for Patrick? Guess I have to junk it 'cos he's Canadian.)


    I was just about to make a comment about making a generalizations based on the comments of one person. And that person wasn't even referring to an American team.

    Anyway, for W&P. I expected S&B to be in third place. Based on the OD's of W&P and S&B, if W&P can skate their Flamenco well I feel they have a good shot at holding onto third place at least until the FD section (I haven't seen S&B's FD yet).

    And yes I am another American routing for a Canadian team.

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    I dunno Dyan. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but both CDs this season are seniors only, right? So I'd assume a team that's been in seniors longer would have a leg up (ie, W/P over S/B - S/B did say before TEB that they hadn't done a Golden Waltz before. I don't know how true that is for a Tango Romantica, though and given that W/P only have one senior season on S/B, don't know how much credence to give it). W/P have a home country advantage, but that really only takes you so far. I do prefer S/B as a team, but I agree that W/P have better programs. But I also like S/B's free, and I'm the only one who does. (Link here).

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    You are right ImaginaryPogue. I had forgotten that S&B haven't been senior skaters as long as W&P have. I based my opinion regarding the OD on the fact that N&B actually beat S&B in that portion at TEB although IIRC, S&B made mistakes on a twizzle sequence. I don't think many people liked their OD any better than the FD.

    I admit to not being a huge S&B fan but can see why others are. Emily and Evan are very good technically but I wish their coaches would give them better FD's. Or perhaps I should say I wish they had FD's that were better artistically since they do get the levels they need. I've liked a couple of their OD's but so far the FD's have left me cold.

    Not quite off topic but is Universal Sports not airing any icedancing from Skate Canada? I'm wondering if the Skate Canada schedule will keep Universal from being able to show any of the dance competition much the same way we saw none of the icedancing from NHK.

    I've checked the schedules but so far through tomorrow night there is just pairs, mens and ladies scheduled.

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    Thanks for the link.

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    Speaking as a Canadian who is very pro S&B , I agree their FDs have been lacking ...mainly in character , which is a shame, because the team can be so expressive. Their music is just so generic.Hoping for something more next year.

    Happy for W&P.Looking forward to an accident -free OD from them. Technical considerations aside, I thought P&B's Tango expression was far below V&M's,that could have had something to do with the differential.

    I like the placements....It's so refreshing to be able to say that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Yes-nearly 41 is a score for a nearly perfect CD, if you compare that to previous world championship winning CD's. Maybe 39, because it's better than D&W's, but I thought D&W were scored a bit high in the CD also.

    I want to see the sharpness, no pushing, no snow kick ups, and the spirit of Pakhomova's tango ruling even when the music is turned off to score 40 to 41. No one has done that for me yet.
    I think Navka / Kostomarov scored above 45, so there is plenty room above 40...

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    Yes to Navka, but the CD guidelines have been changed since, and those kind of scores have not been seen since. (The year Navka got 45, B&A got 43 at Skate America)

    Best CD at last 4 world championships (post Navka). Note B&A were at all those championships and weren't getting CD scores in the 43 range.

    2006 Denkova/Staviski 38.46 (Ravensburger)
    2007 Worlds Dubreuil/Lauzon 38.96 (Rhumba)
    2008 Delobel/Schoenfelder 40.73 (Argentine Tango)
    2009 Domnina/Shabalin 40.77 (Paso Doble)

    The scoring for the expected winner at all the GP events in all 4 disciplines has seemed out of line to me. I think Mr. Cinquanta wants some 'world records' at the Olympics.

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