I would have given it to Weaver and Poje over P/B. I got on W/P bandwagon a few years ago just noting talent. After Olys, everyone will be on their bandwagon. JMO.
What was interesting was P/B's use of American country music, and it was Blue Grass - not all that CMA stuff. Skating to American folk music is always risky. Not sure if P/B just copied it from Hollywood movie scenes which were never authentic according to the blue grass people. That George Clooney movie demonstrated blue grass very well.
Anyhow happy that W&P are beginning to be recognized.
There's always this debate between "clean" versus "mistakes and higher level skating" always, in cases like this. IMO V/M's edge depth and speed even today are extraordinary versus the field at SC.
If P/B had skated stronger overall (not just clean) IMO they would have a better case for the scores to be closer but it was really not cohesive.
Weaver and Poje need more strength in their skating. The program kicks a$$ and it's all there in the structure, but the actual skating is kind of flamenco lite.
Just .02. I'm not saying V/M were 60 but I don't know about P/B's score either. If their compatriots were here, maybe they wouldn't have gotten 56 or 55, whatever they got, and maybe because they did, V/M had to get 60 for a lesser (for them) effort.
Scout like you I had been thinking that the judges were marking the skaters in comparison to the fields they are skating in so I still wasn't worried about B&A. However, IMO while there is a huge drop off in skating skills between V&M and the rest of skaters from S&B/W&P down the list, P&B (IMO) are good enough to beat a horrible performance by V&M. Maybe there is something to the comments that the judges aren't even going to give B&A a fair shot at the olympic gold. Perhaps not even a medal.
For the record V&M are one of my favorite teams.
Dyan, there weren't two falls in the sense that there were two deductions. Neither stumble counted as a fall. But the stumbles were noteworthy enough that if Moir hadn't been supporting her, she would have fallen. I remember Brodeur/Mattatal having a spin that went awry like that and they counted it as a fall (his support was necessary in the specific position they were in). I thought that would've happened here. It didn't. Because neither stumble was on an element, the TES were unaffected, but they were considerably gifted in the PCS. It was a disappointing performance, no doubt, but their marks were even moreso.
ImaginaryPogue, thanks. I haven't seen the OD's and don't usually comment before I have seen them but it threw me a little when I saw people refer to "falls" in their posts. I took that to mean that Tessa actually was down on the ice twice.
IMO P&B's skating skills have improved a lot over the past few years and while V&M are still superior skaters overall I do believe because of V&M's issues today the gap between them and P&B could have been closer even if P&B didn't outright win the OD.
I've been checking the schedules but is Universal airing any of the dance competition? From what I saw it doesn't seem so which is a shame as I would have liked to get V&M's, P&B's and W&P's FD's on tape.
i can't wait to see the protocols for V/M's twizzles and the footworks
where is this team from? They looked like they just moved up from junior. Does anyone know!
P/B's skating skills may have improved a lot but it didn't show today and I believe there was still a marked gap between them and V/M despite V/M's stumbles. P/B's skating was not strong today - not as good as at TEB, IMO.IMO P&B's skating skills have improved a lot over the past few years and while V&M are still superior skaters overall I do believe because of V&M's issues today the gap between them and P&B could have been closer even if P&B didn't outright win the OD.
They competed at Skate Canada last year.
You could not say they were just up from Juniors, as Andrea is 22 and Gfeller is 24.
CiSt3: mostly 1s and 2s, which is right - the mistakes came later.
The mistakes were in the transitions/linking footwork/movement, but that was still scored in the eights. I don't see how they got 9.00 from one judge in interpretation/timing, and the 9.50 in choreography (same judge) definitely feels like a "lets see how to get this score higher" maneuver.