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    Quote Originally Posted by ks777 View Post
    Michal BREZINA reminded me of Tim Goeble and Jeff Buttle combined.
    I am trying to picture this...

    Well, now that I have seen the whole thing on the big small screen (as opposed to the small small screen), I have to say...for my money, Preubert was the best. Smooth, cool, hit every jump. I bet Mick Jagger loved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ks777 View Post
    Michal BREZINA reminded me of Tim Goeble and Jeff Buttle combined.
    To me, the only connection between Brezina and Goebel is that they have skated the same music.

    I have just watched men's LP on NBC. Some thoughts:

    Patrick: I had same feeling as I had seen him on Youtube yesterday. I felt sorry for him. I wish that all the medias scale back a little and give him some room to breath and he himself stops talking. I wish him do better at the Canadian Nationals.

    Jeremy: I loooove his classical skating style and his costume! I am very happy that he finally skated a clean quad with plus GOE. I feel that he could use more attacks in his LP and add a bit more power in it. That'll be more attractive.

    Daisuke: I admire his artistic abilities. But he is not all there yet. So he was not what I thought he should be. Glad he is improving as the season goes.

    Michal: Not very impressed performance like last week's. He is young and has time.

    Dennis: I love this cute little boy's performance - power and beauty at the same time. Hope he has consistant jumps to go with it.

    Alban: Don't like his skating at all. It's good that he has had clean program but I have nothing to say about it.

    If I list this last group of men from the most favorite to the least favorite (not consider this time's performance), I will say:

    Jeremy, Patrick, Daisuke, Dennis, Michal, then a big gap, Alban.
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    oh but alban looks so HAPPY when he skates, he has not good posture and he is sloppy but he is one of few that looks like he is enjoying being a skater, most look sceptical and/or scared of the competition. I like his clockwork orange approach. Lp not so much, too messy. But he did medal so kudos to him!
    I have watched almost nothing from men in SC, just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seniorita View Post
    oh but alban looks so HAPPY when he skates, he has not good posture and he is sloppy but he is one of few that looks like he is enjoying being a skater, most look sceptical and/or scared of the competition. I like his clockwork orange approach. Lp not so much, too messy. But he did medal so kudos to him!
    I have watched almost nothing from men in SC, just saying.
    You are right. He doesn't have good posture and seems sloppy. His style reminds me of roller skaters and skateboarders. Not my cup of tea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ks777 View Post
    Because Daisuke always make sure that the juges focus on his hair instead of his take off edge.. that's why his hair look like that.

    As for Oda, he had his fly down at NHK to make sure the judges focus on something else other than his take off edge. You need to be creative in order to avoid getting "e" and "!".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jennylovskt View Post
    Alban: Don't like his skating at all. It's good that he has had clean program but I have nothing to say about it.
    Wow, just goes to show how different people are. Although I had the TV on for the whole hour, Preubert's program was the only one I liked well enough to watch all the way through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Wow, just goes to show how different people are. Although I had the TV on for the whole hour, Preubert's program was the only one I liked well enough to watch all the way through.
    I agree! I was at the arena, and even from my nosebleed seats at the men's event, it was clear that Preaubert had energy and verve. It's true that he's not the most sophisticated or elegant skater out there, but sometimes it's refreshing just to see a skater go out there and have some fun, air-guitar and all.

    Though I must add that I enjoyed Takahashi and Abbott's programs as well

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    On the strength of today's competition, whom do I like best? Sigh...I'm tempted to say Patrick Chan, whose movement is so obviously propelled by the music, despite his (temporarily) lamentable jumps. The other one who impressed me is my old favorite Daisuke. I'm so glad he's back, and he also has wonderful musicality as well as athleticism. Of all the men who are contenders, he's the one I most want to see win a medal, though I'm not committing to the gold. (The future is open, and the ice is slippery; I try not to build castles in the air too soon in the year.) I haven't yet seen Oda's Chaplin routine, which I'm sure I'll also love. And I haven't seen all the Americans this year; I'd sure love to root for one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    On the strength of today's competition, whom do I like best? Sigh...I'm tempted to say Patrick Chan, whose movement is so obviously propelled by the music, despite his (temporarily) lamentable jumps. The other one who impressed me is my old favorite Daisuke. I'm so glad he's back, and he also has wonderful musicality as well as athleticism. Of all the men who are contenders, he's the one I most want to see win a medal, though I'm not committing to the gold. (The future is open, and the ice is slippery; I try not to build castles in the air too soon in the year.) I haven't yet seen Oda's Chaplin routine, which I'm sure I'll also love. And I haven't seen all the Americans this year; I'd sure love to root for one of them.
    i feel that Dai may do better without a quad this season. He still seems to have a stamina issue. The consistency in practice also does not sound good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Wow, just goes to show how different people are. Although I had the TV on for the whole hour, Preubert's program was the only one I liked well enough to watch all the way through.
    Don't forget you don't discuss skaters until you've read the protocols. No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evangeline View Post
    I agree! I was at the arena, and even from my nosebleed seats at the men's event, it was clear that Preaubert had energy and verve. It's true that he's not the most sophisticated or elegant skater out there, but sometimes it's refreshing just to see a skater go out there and have some fun, air-guitar and all.

    Though I must add that I enjoyed Takahashi and Abbott's programs as well
    I read all this as pro-Ladies. Beautiful performances by Daisuke and Abbot. But what about Caroline, the next best thing since chopped liver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    Wait, they only get two spots at Euros this year? Even with a first and fourth place at last year's event?

    Or are you talking about the Olympic Games. I think Amodio's youth actually plays in his favour.
    Yep, I was talking about olympics, not Euros. I think Amadio will get a trip to Euros for sure, I'm sure the Fed wants to give him as much exposure as possible as he's the next big thing now.
    For me, the highlight of men's LP was Alban. Ye's he has bad bad posture, he doesn't have flowing lines, he's a total goofball. But he makes me want to sit through the whole thing and just enjoy. Same with Alenova. I understand they get criticised for not being polished or not conforming to the elegant style but I'd rather have some with obvious joy for what they do than someone who is doing pefectly what they are given without adding that flavour. Unfortunately, I don't see that flavour in Taka so far, he was absolutely divine before the injury. Maybe it's stamina issue rite now, maybe not. I don't know.

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    I'm SO PROUD of Jeremy and Daisuke for rebounding so well from their performances at the NHK Trophy. WAY TO GO, GUYS! You both put on an entertaining show! Now on to the GPF!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jennylovskt View Post
    Having seen Chan's LP, it's painful to watch. All the hypes and pressure didn't do good to him.
    Chan is an excellent skater but believing in your own press (hype) is dangerous.
    In a pre-Skate Canada press conf. he said he and his choreographer laughed at Plushenko's Cup of Russia's performance. I don't think he will be laughing in Vancouver. Plushenko doesn't have Chan's elegance but he does have consistent jumps, lots of them - including quads- and the Olympics is above all a sporting event - that's its motto - faster, higher, stronger - not necessarily just prettier. While Worlds can be won without a quad as we have seen, I doubt very much a skate without a quad in the men's event at OG will win gold. And Plushenko isn't the only skater with a quad. Hopefully saner voices will prevail to keep Chan reality based as he heads to Vancouver.

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    I thought Abbott looked GREAT in his new costume. It actually helped me to notice that he is very tall, I have not had that feeling before. I went to ISU biographies to check out his height, and I found out that he trains only 16h/week. Is it possible or was it just a typo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    Can someone get Patrick over to Shae-Lynn Bourne? Please? Shae-Lynn knows how to put together CoP-savvy programs that look like more than the sum of their parts. Or Kurt Browning, he could get Chan to do something fun. At the age of 18, he should be having fun on the ice.
    I think he has fun with the stuff he is doing. He should enjoy himself, not using something WE think would be fun for him. And I guess he does.

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