Ladies SP 13:15 pm Eastern Time Friday, November 20

[R.D.]

I wouldn't start counting Alyssa's GPF chances just yet. If she has one of her usual "Alyssa" freeskates she could finish OTP. Then she's out for good.

[zartian]

I have never been a huge fan of Joannie. To me, she looked too athletic, too stiff, and seemed to lack artistry. But When I saw her in China weeks ago, I fell in love with her tango (and her costume) even though she made mistakes and got low score. Who choreograghed her SP? Isn't it perhaps Shae-Lynn? It looks like her style. Whoever choreograghed it, he/she did a terrific job and seems to have made considerable efforts for it to look good on Joannie.

When I first heard of Joannie's music choice months ago, I knew it will sell (and I actually said here that she was very smart in choosing her music!) Who wouldn't like Tango? It is a very smart move to choose popular, emotional, audience-apealing music (e.g. tango, gypsy, flamenco, etc.) especially in Olympic season. Good job, Joannie!

It's so sad that Akiko got so low score. I wish her all the best tomorrow! Of course, best wishes to my Alissa (and Mirai) too!

[marc2000]

who cares about the number anyway. Much as people like to compare, scores really aren't that comparible from event to event. Different callers as well as different panels of judges might make different calls or dole out different GOE's. If she got 75 points or 55 points, i would say something is off, but it seems to be in about the correct range for her skating.

At the end of the day, she is several points superior to Alissa and that is what she received. Whether it was 66 vs 70 or 60 vs 64 or 68 vs 72 it does't make all that much difference.

[katakwan]

1 Joannie CAN 70.00 38.40 31.60 7.85 7.50 8.05 8.00 8.10 0.00 #11
2 Alissa USA 63.52 36.60 26.92 7.15 6.05 7.05 6.55 6.85 0.00 #7
3 Mirai USA 56.34 32.30 24.04 6.35 5.50 6.25 6.05 5.90 0.00 #3
4 Laura FIN 55.74 29.14 26.60 6.95 6.20 6.65 6.75 6.70 0.00 #10
5 Cynthia CAN 55.58 31.10 24.48 6.45 5.40 6.40 6.05 6.30 0.00 #2
6 Amelie CAN 55.10 32.70 22.40 5.95 5.15 5.85 5.50 5.55 0.00 #1
7 Caroline USA 54.58 31.58 23.00 6.20 5.20 5.85 5.80 5.70 0.00 #9
8 Akiko JPN 53.10 29.90 23.20 6.40 5.00 6.05 5.90 5.65 0.00 #8
9 Jenna GBR 47.48 26.92 20.56 5.55 4.50 5.40 5.20 5.05 0.00 #5
10 Sarah GER 45.50 25.70 19.80 5.30 4.25 5.35 5.00 4.85 0.00 #6
11 Joshi SWE 40.48 22.08 19.40 5.25 4.25 5.10 4.95 4.70 1.00 #4

I'm not a judge, but I can't really really understand between
Joannie's pcs 31.60 and Alissa's 26.92 and Akiko's 23.20
especially Akiko was a champion in COR, joannie 3rd though.

what makes a difference between 31.60 and 23.20 ???

[Layfan]

Well, she's not in 1st...and thus is not skating last. So that should take some pressure off (actually, I'm glad she's not leading so she won't feel overwhelmed...I won't comment on Rochette's 70-pt score since I haven't seen the performance- and come to think of it, I probably won't watch it)

Rochette's score might in a weird way take even more pressure off Czisny. The judges seemed to have made a statement that Rochette could basically skate onto the ice and throw up tomorrow and still win. Nothing Cizsny can do about that ...

[i love to skate]

I fell in love with her tango (and her costume) even though she made mistakes and got low score. Who choreograghed her SP? Isn't it perhaps Shae-Lynn? It looks like her style. Whoever choreograghed it, he/she did a terrific job and seems to have made considerable efforts for it to look good on Joannie.

Yes, it was Shae-Lynn. The two of them have created some beautiful programs together!

[Blades of Passion]

[the SP score] it does't make all that much difference.

Erm, it certainly makes a difference. The points carry over into the LP.

[Kissx3]

Can Alissa make the GPF if she finishes 2nd overall?

Yes, but she needs to outscore Rachel and Akiko has to be lower than 4th. Both are possible but who knows what will happen?

[Enthusiast]

Yes, but she needs to outscore Rachel and Akiko has to be lower than 4th. Both are possible but who knows what will happen?

By how much does she need to outscore Rachael? Is it doable?

[shallwedansu]

I know we all don't like to admit home country advantage, but come on! How else can you explain Lacoste and Phaneuf over Suzuki? No, seriously. Can anyone explain this to me for any other reason than because Suzuki isn't Canadian?

And if 6 points is going to be the only difference, then COP needs to start rewarding the 3-3 more.

[Layfan]

I wouldn't start counting Alyssa's GPF chances just yet. If she has one of her usual "Alyssa" freeskates she could finish OTP. Then she's out for good.

Yup. And I wouldn't count Akiko out. Everyone in this event except Joannie is so erratic anything can happen tomorrow. (Erratic but all full of potential. Makes for an especially unpredictable event.)

[R.D.]

Wait a minute...Rochette didn't do a 3-3??

and she scored 70???

HUH?!

[Kissx3]

By how much does she need to outscore Rachael? Is it doable?

Flatt:
174.91
157.71
=332.62


Czisny:
158.30
63.52
=221.82

So she needs 110.81. I'd say it's doable, but she'll have to be right on the money.

[i love to skate]

I know we all don't like to admit home country advantage, but come on! How else can you explain Lacoste and Phaneuf over Suzuki? No, seriously. Can anyone explain this to me for any other reason than because Suzuki isn't Canadian?

And if 6 points is going to be the only difference, then COP needs to start rewarding the 3-3 more.

Well Suzuki had two mistakes in her program (toe axel and a flip out). I would imagine her spins also did not have the highest levels. Audience reaction does have an influence on the marks and I would say the audience reacted more to the two Canadians (naturally).

It does no good to compare scores from different competitions. So we really shouldn't be even bringing Yu-Na Kim into this conversation. She isn't here.

[museksk8r]

Wait a minute...Rochette didn't do a 3-3??

and she scored 70???

HUH?!

If Sasha can do it (71.12 at 2003 Skate Canada), Joannie certainly can too I think!