Ladies Free Program 19:00 pm Eastern Time Saturday, November 21
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I don't think she was an A-skater in the first place :think:
But I do agree that she has dropped down a rung or two. I remember everyone (including me to a certain extent) were promoting Flatt/Zhang for the Oly team to some extent. It's looking more and more like the three contenders are Flatt, Wagner and Czisny. Nagasu I think is the dark horse (due to her jump issues). IF Zhang can pull it together in the next couple of months she might be able to get herself back in contention...everyone else is likely just fighting for PBs rather than Oly spots.
Nagasu has an advantage over Czisny and Wagner in that she's somewhat more consistent...she could REALLY take advantage of a situation which both have an off-night...
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Overall, Mirai showed some progress tonight. I think she can get her smile back but what good is that if she continued with so many downgrades.
BTW, I am sure Carroll is grooming Mirai for 2014. He knows she isn;t ready to win at the biggest events yet.
A few of her jumps were as good as any I saw tonight.
BTW, I am sure Carroll is grooming Mirai for 2014. He knows she isn;t ready to win at the biggest events yet.
A few of her jumps were as good as any I saw tonight.
wow
She did get 3.75 from one judge while Joannie got 9.25 with her messed up fs. Wow even Yuna never got that much with her great performances.
She didn't get a 3.75 at all.She got 5.75
She did get 3.75 from one judge while Joannie got 9.25 with her messed up fs. Wow even Yuna never got that much with her great performances.
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There is a judge who gave Alissa CZISNY's Transition / Linking Footwork scores 3.75.
WoW~~~
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpcan09/gpcan09_Ladies_SP_Scores.pdf
That's so ridiculous. It reminds me of the "the East German judge give her a score of ... " days.
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She didn't get a 3.75 at all.
How is it a 5.75? There is clearly a 3.75 on the protocal...
There is a judge who gave Alissa CZISNY's Transition / Linking Footwork scores 3.75.
WoW~~~
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpcan09/gpcan09_Ladies_SP_Scores.pdf
Somebody must have hit the wrong button I guess. But wow.Well, overall, it was not very brilliant competition.. But congratulations, Joannie, Alissa, Laura, and Akiko.
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That's gotta be a mistake. Thankfully it didn't change anything (I think if it was 5.75 or even 6.75, it would cause a shift in the PCS by something like .08).
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She didn't get a 3.75 at all.
The 3.75 is in the short program. I guess that's why they throw out the lowest and highest marks.
I think the only way Caroline gets it together is if she suddenly skates with musicality, pizzazz, and expression, and looks like she ENJOYS being on the ice. All of those factors are too hard to change in a couple of months.
As for Wagner, I honestly see her as the top contender right now, because she has proven herself again and again this season and more importantly because the judges seem to love her skating. If the judges at Nationals are influenced by the GP judges, then they won't really reward Mirai that much because even when MIrai's jumps are on she doesn't score as well as Alissa. Rachael was of course rewarded mightily by the judges at SA, so if that's a factor, she'll do great at Nationals as well.
So the contenders for Vancouver listed by their probability of making the team.
1.) Wagner
2.) Flatt
3.) Czisny
4.) Nagasu.
5.) Gilles
6.) Zhang
(I did leave out Cohen of course, but I am not sure if she'll show up at nationals.)
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There is a judge who gave Caroline ZHANG's Transition / Linking Footwork scores 2.5
WoW~~~
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpcan09/gpcan09_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf
WoW~~~
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpcan09/gpcan09_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf
oh man
I'm very disappointed in SC. What's up with the ridiculous PCS scores for
Canadian skaters? Especially for Patrick Chen and Joannie Rochette.
They are really inflating their PCS and getting ready for the olympics.
Also I'm rather shocked by what Joannie said (I don't need triple triple I can get points from other elements blah blah ~~).
Oh come on as if she deserved that 70.00.
Except for her jumps, her spiral is slow and not so pretty,
her spin is horrible (I wouldn't even call that a layback) and overall
her programs are just so uninspiring. I bet no one will watch her performance
over and over again.
I'm very disappointed in SC. What's up with the ridiculous PCS scores for
Canadian skaters? Especially for Patrick Chen and Joannie Rochette.
They are really inflating their PCS and getting ready for the olympics.
Also I'm rather shocked by what Joannie said (I don't need triple triple I can get points from other elements blah blah ~~).
Oh come on as if she deserved that 70.00.
Except for her jumps, her spiral is slow and not so pretty,
her spin is horrible (I wouldn't even call that a layback) and overall
her programs are just so uninspiring. I bet no one will watch her performance
over and over again.
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Do we have an anti-canada über?
I bet someone will watch her play over and over again.:agree:
I'm giving my honest opinions. Just look at the protocols (assuming you know what it is).
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There is a judge who gave Caroline ZHANG's Transition / Linking Footwork scores 2.5
WoW~~~
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpcan09/gpcan09_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf
That's not as glaring since other judges gave her like 3.5 to 4.25.
Personally, I'd switch Flatt and Wagner around. If Flatt goes clean at Nats, she's on the Oly team- that's nearly a done deal- it would take knockout performances from Czisny and Wagner plus a real bad night from Flatt to put her out.
So (as of today) in order from best: Flatt, Wagner, Czisny, Nagasu, then I might have Zhang and Gilles tied (if the latter has an off-night, she has no chance whatsoever).
Then, we haven't seen Wagner at the GPF. If she tanks there, does Czisny shoot ahead of her?
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As for Cohen, she's rightfully left out of the discussion because she hasn't shown me she's seriously going to engage in this "comeback". Plus, no one knows what to expect. We've seen the other girls already.
Yes~ you're right. I agree.:agree:
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